KotOR Revan vs KotOR II Exile

Started by Petrus5 pages

I've been back and forth on this, but for now I rank KOTOR Revan above KOTOR II Surik, although not by a lot.

He clearly is, but not necessarily from non-scaled feats.

Not scaling her feats doesn't make her look better as Revan exists as the god for KotOR II.

The author flat out says Revan can beat both Traya and the Exile at the same time.

Yeah, but the whole point of the match is to only use non-scaled feats.

Strictly feat by feat, Revan probably outweighs Surik.

And if we scale those feats, Revan definitely beats her.

Her best feat is circumstantial, to put it mildly, and below Revan's, so she's still less impressive.

Revan's Victories:
Darth Bandon
Unquantifable Malak

Exile's Victories:
Nihilus
Amped Sion
Amped Traya

Hm.....tough choices here, really. I mean, he did defeat Darth Bandon.

Also what an author says outside of his work is utterly worthless because Avellone doesn't own these characters. If I got licensed to write a book tomorrow where I had The Exile beat Revan with her pinky, it be worth more than anything Avellone ever said in a frickin' email.

This is like listening to comic book writers. They all have their ideas on who beats who, as well. Guess who we DON'T listen to for comic book versus. Why? Because they merely wrote one version of the character. The character belongs to Marvel/DC/whoever, not them.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Revan's Victories:
Darth Bandon
Unquantifable Malak

Exile's Victories:
Nihilus
Amped Sion
Amped Traya

Hm.....tough choices here, really. I mean, he did defeat Darth Bandon.

Also what an author says outside of his work is utterly worthless because Avellone doesn't own these characters. If I got licensed to write a book tomorrow where I had The Exile beat Revan with her pinky, it be worth more than anything Avellone ever said in a frickin' email.

This is like listening to comic book writers. They all have their ideas on who beats who, as well. Guess who we DON'T listen to for comic book versus. Why? Because they merely wrote one version of the character. The character belongs to Marvel/DC/whoever, not them.

Funny how you refer to Sion and Traya as 'amped' and refer to Malak as 'unquantifiable'. Malak was also amped, not only by a nexus but also by at least 6 dead Jedi who replenished his energy whenever Revan started to tire him out. This was done after Revan defeated amped Bastila, legions of Dark Jedi and personally annihilated the Star Forge's droid defenses. It's certainly more impressive than Surik's feats. And that's not it. He also defeated two Terentateks simultaneously right before he defeated the two most skilled Sith in the Korriban Academy and proceeded to solo all the Sith inside the Academy.

Even if we don't do a feat to feat comparison, Revan is superior to Surik by her own admission, and based on her not being able to defeat Nyriss whereas Revan crushed her.

Originally posted by Petrus
Funny how you refer to Sion and Traya as 'amped' and refer to Malak as 'unquantifiable'.

Kreia killed 3 Jedi Masters with one move on her own.
Sion was functionally immortal on his own.

So we can say they were quite impressive but then got substantially stronger.

What can we say about Malak except he is missing his lower jaw?

Malak was also amped, not only by a nexus but also by at least 6 dead Jedi who replenished his energy whenever Revan started to tire him out. This was done after Revan defeated amped Bastila, legions of Dark Jedi and personally annihilated the Star Forge's droid defenses. It's certainly more impressive than Surik's feats. And that's not it. He also defeated two Terentateks simultaneously right before he defeated the two most skilled Sith in the Korriban Academy and proceeded to solo all the Sith inside the Academy.

Are you seriously saying some fodder Dark Jedi are on par with Traya or Sion? Sion could kill all those Dark Jedi himself.

Even if we don't do a feat to feat comparison, Revan is superior to Surik by her own admission, and based on her not being able to defeat Nyriss whereas Revan crushed her.

We were talking about the KOTOR games, not bad novels.

We are talking about who's more powerful. Revan is.

>Sion
>remotely comparable to Malak
> 😂

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Sion could kill all those Dark Jedi himself.

With powerscaling, Revan would stomp her. By feats? Surrik fought much more powerful opponents. One could kill everything on a planet with drain, and has enough powerful TK, to rise a ruined starship. The other one could stomp jedi Council members, without any effort. Both of them were able to sever their enemies from the Force (as I remember). Revan on the other hand, couldn't stomp jedi stroke team in the same way (probably couldn't...). And that strike team, had probably inferior jedi to those from the Council.

Revan had to deal with one Lord Sith. Surrik had to deal with three.

The hell?

Originally posted by McP
With powerscaling, Revan would stomp her. By feats? Surrik fought much more powerful opponents. One could kill everything on a planet with drain, and has enough powerful TK, to rise a ruined starship. The other one could stomp jedi Council members, without any effort. Both of them were able to sever their enemies from the Force (as I remember). Revan on the other hand, couldn't stomp jedi stroke team in the same way (probably couldn't...). And that strike team, had probably inferior jedi to those from the Council.

Revan had to deal with one Lord Sith. Surrik had to deal with three.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66

Tell me - if you have any real arguments - how do these fodder DJ propose to kill an immortal Sith Lord who never tires and can just cut them down one by one?

Why do people keep saying Revan soled Korriban and the Star Forge? He had help from his companions in both cases. Revan had Jolee and Juhani, two experienced Jedi on his side until the Bastila battle, while the Exile legit soled Malachor.

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Three pages, it took three pages to point out the obvious.

Well done, Psychotron.

Does that change any opinions?