Anakin Skywalker vs. Mace Windu

1. Anakin
2. Mace
3. Close, but Anakin takes a slight majority.

I dunno, but that's the whole point of having the ability; he'll find a weak spot. Either way, he won't be using Makashi. I just think Windu's abilities stack up well against Anakin.

LMAO at Windu supporters. Macer dies.

Originally posted by MythLord
LMAO at Windu supporters. Macer dies.

Legends I'd go with Skywalker.

Originally posted by Kurk
1. Not sure
2. Windu 6/10
3. Windu 6/10

Very, very close margin—even closer than Dooku vs Windu so could go either way

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Don't you think Dooku can beat Windu? If so, I have no clue how you come to the conclusion that Windu can defeat Anakin...

Anakin beat Dooku because of a form advantage and because Sidious was stroking his rage. As of DD standard Anakin with a form advantage is Dooku's equal. Standard Anakin could probably defeat Dooku with a form advantage but it'd be awfully close.

Form advantage? Windu's Vaapad loop would be a significantly bigger "form advantage" that Anakin's Djem So. And I don't remember Palpating goading Anakin in the duel.

Edit: I'd also like to know where it is stated Makashi is weak to Djem So.

Only if Mace is capable of enacting it which against Sora Bulq, Asajj Ventress, Depa Bilaba, Kar Vastor and Dooku himself he was unable to. The only time Vaapad worked "as intended" was when Mace was drawing on his own inner darkness which was fueled by his grief at the thing he loved most in the Galaxy being a lie as it was under the control of the Sith Lord who started the Clone Wars and when he was facing the most powerful darksider in history. In any other circumstances I personally don't believe he's capable of enacting a loop.

Anakin wins the Force round decisively, even despite inferior mastery over his far superior power.

Mace wins sabers in a great fight, and subsequently all out.

The "form advantage" principally refers to the fact Dooku lacks the raw physical strength to handle Skywalker's blows.

As Sasukedc pointed out, Dooku didn't have trouble handling the likes of Windu, Grievous, or Opress, all of which are monsters.

Skywalker is just insane.

That's not to mention Anakin's sheer raw power, speed, and skill. 👆

Originally posted by ares834
I'd also like to know where it is stated Makashi is weak to Djem So.

"His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head." - Revenge of the Sith.

I'd like a source that the loop wasn't in use against most of those. Against Vastor and Depa it wasn’t, sure. But that’s because he was holding back to stop himself from falling to the dark side due to Haruun Kal. And generally, don't we assume characters aren't holding back in these threads? The others though, no such source exists as far as I’m aware of.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The "form advantage" principally refers to the fact Dooku lacks the raw physical strength to handle Skywalker's blows.

As Sasukedc pointed out, Dooku didn't have troubled handling the likes of Windu, Grievous, or Opress, all of which are monsters.

Skywalker is just insane.

That's not to mention Anakin's sheer raw power, speed, and skill. 👆

The quote I'm referring to focuses on the form to form dynamic. While Skywalker no doubt possesses the physical strength to make the Djem So style he wields a true threat to Dooku there's also the fact that hit helps to enhance his own already inherent advantages.

Mmkay, its time to stop this, a few years ago, people referred to the Anakin who fought Dooku as Zonakin, and implied that he was amped in some way to defeat Dooku like that, as Dooku is in the Top 5 duelists in all the EU, whereas everyone had Anakin... somewhere below Dooku.

Zonakin is still a thing to me, isn't it some coincidence that Anakin starts owning after Obi-Wan gets knocked out?

Wasn't Dooku trying not to kill him?

The form to form dynamic in the sense Skywalker's form revolves around brutality and Dooku's finesse, hence why it specifically states "kinetic power" and not skill.

Originally posted by Syndicate
"His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head." - Revenge of the Sith.

That doesn't say Makashi was weak to Djem So.

You've also missed out a key part of that line.

Edit- And in fact the only time "weakness" was mentioned was in fact Djem So's lack of mobility.

What I believe is, no one should change their opinion if no new info is added.

If you defended Revan against a character a year ago, defend him against that character still, its not logical for you to up and change opinions for no reason.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
That doesn't say Makashi was weak to Djem So.

You've also missed out a key part of that line.

Originally posted by Syndicate
"His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head." - Revenge of the Sith.

That doesn’t suggest form advantage. No form is meant to go head-to-head with Djem So. That’s sorta the whole point of the form, it’s users use strong brute force attacks to batter away at people.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
The "form advantage" principally refers to the fact Dooku lacks the raw physical strength to handle Skywalker's blows.

As Sasukedc pointed out, Dooku didn't have trouble handling the likes of Windu, Grievous, or Opress, all of which are monsters.

Skywalker is just insane.

That's not to mention Anakin's sheer raw power, speed, and skill. 👆

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