Darth Caedus vs Darth Tyranus

Caedus is as he was in his final duel with Jaina, ie. missing an arm and just got stabbed through the abdomen.

Can the good Count defeat him in this state?

Round 1: Caedus is distracted as he was against Jaina, though he won't pass up an opportunity to kill Dooku just to warn Tenel Ka as he did against her.

Round 2: He is wounded but not distracted

Round 1: possibly Tyranus
Round 2: Caedus, IMHO. The pain will just make him stronger, which is kind of his MO, but the loss of another arm will present mechanical problems independent of said pain. That being said, he still did very well earlier against a Jaina that I maintain was amped by Luke, and his power in the Force is still superior to Dooku's by a significant extent, and this likely outweighs the injuries.

WTF?
Caedus loses both rounds, KEK.

Caedus is pretty far above Dooku as a duelist.

No, he really isn't.

How do you think peak Vader compares to Dooku as a duelist?

Vader only his slight superior, tbh.

Honestly, I don't see what Caedus has done to supersede that tier significantly. His bouts against Luke is overblown by a bunch, as ILS has pointed out long ago. Luke was wounded to a great extent, he has the environment advantage, yet, he was still going to be killed early own had it not been for him using the Force, and the specific environment, to pull of the sequence.

I mean, I believe Caedus maybe above them, but the gap isn't big enough to where a gutted Caedus with one arm is beating him, KEK.

Caedus can't win either round.

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
WTF?
Caedus loses both rounds, KEK.

Tyranus.

Vader was utterly helpless against a rage RotJ Luke to the point of not even being able to stand properly even when Luke wasn't touching him. Somehow I doubt that Luke got to LotF power by getting angry. Caedus may have lost despite his advantages but his performance is still infinitely superior.

And Caedus had trouble with fodder Mado's, while Vader --- before becoming vastly more powerful --- was practically toying with Boba ****ing Fett.

Do you see the flaw with comparing to highly circumstantial showings with each other?

Yeah, I actually agree with DC here, although that's just a shitty low showing from Caedus. That said, an enraged Skywalker is clearly a terrifying prospect. Both times when Anakin was enraged against Dooku, he went from them being almost even to him absolutely manhandling. Luke going from being even with Vader to serving him his ass with fries and sauce is pretty consistent with immense Skywalker rage.

DC, I made my response regarding the Enclave back in that thread, if you haven't seen it.

DS: So by pointing out that characters can be inconsistent, you've been granted the ability to blanket dismiss any comparison of feats?

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No, I'm pointing comparing two competely different circunstances, then trying judge it by an arbiterary measure is flawed. Hence, the Boba and Mando showings

We have no idea what would be the difference between a rage amped Luke, and a badly injured one from a later era. Especially, given just how incosistent Luke is. The injury he suffered was do to Lumiya....someone he should have been able to stomp without a scratch, all things considered.

He didn't even have a debilitating injury, just a bad knee.

Round 1) Given the Count's well-known and highly skilled use of Dun-Moch, if he can apply it in such a way in which it aids in Caedus' distraction and not detract from it, which I think he can, then Count for a majority.

Round 2) Dooku loses. He is just slightly < a one-armed Caedus and I think good enough to last long enough until Caedus' wounds begin to take a serious affect on his ability to fight. However, he is largely outclassed as far as the force is concerned.

DS And what feats are you looking at that are devoid of circumstances and put Dooku above injured Caedus?

Dooku