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Originally posted by Lestov16
Well considering we've went 3 years and America's Syrian refuge vetting process hasn't failed us yet, why have such rallies?

It's funny that republicans find Syrian refugees more dangerous than guns even though we haven't been attacked by terrorists who posed as Syrian refugees but we have been attacked by terrorists who use legally purchased firearms.

You said they have Ban Muslim presidential rallies. Was that a lie or did you just assume it was a thing people did only to find out you were wrong?

Originally posted by Lestov16
How will banning the refugees help? Syrian refugees have posed no threat to us in America. Unlike Europe, our vetting system is beastly.

Doesn't matter anyways. Trump called off his Muslim ban.

Because dude. It's American tax money going to non Americans
that money could be used on a sick American child. What is so hard to grasp. It's not just refugees either lest. We pour tons of money into Africa when we have tons of homeless American here. We need to fix our own problems and help our own people first right? Or would you rather have a refugee here oved saving a homeless child from the street. Sick

Well no it's not, not anymore. Trump came to his senses and called off his Muslim ban.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Well no it's not, not anymore. Trump came to his senses and called off his Muslim ban.

Lol nope. Trump did say ban Muslims, but he never held a rally where it was specifically just to talk about banning Muslims, which is what you said republicans did. You understand the difference between mentioning an issue at a rally and having a rally specifically dedicated to just one issue, right?

Originally posted by Raisen
Because dude. It's American tax money going to non Americans
that money could be used on a sick American child. What is so hard to grasp. It's not just refugees either lest. We pour tons of money into Africa when we have tons of homeless American here. We need to fix our own problems and help our own people first right? Or would you rather have a refugee here oved saving a homeless child from the street. Sick

WTF do you mean? Isn't the whole republican ideology about shutting down federal aid programs so that homeless Americans can't use tax money to be welfare moochers and thus must find jobs? You say we can use the tax money to aid the sick and homeless, but republicans don't want universal healthcare to aid the sick or welfare programs to aid the homeless. Where's that tax money really going to go?

Originally posted by Surtur
Lol nope. Trump did say ban Muslims, but he never held a rally where it was specifically just to talk about banning Muslims, which is what you said republicans did. You understand the difference between mentioning an issue at a rally and having a rally specifically dedicated to just one issue, right?

Yes, He actually did call of his blanket Muslim ban.

why the phuck are you mentioning political shit. republicans are generally garbage just like democrats.
i'm talking about American money dude. i'm a phucking registered libertarian.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Yes, He actually did call of his blanket Muslim ban.

AFAIK he got more specific and said it was just for Muslims who couldn't be vetted. But either way he never held a "Let's Ban Muslims" rally.

He actually did call for a complete Muslim ban to all non Americans coming here.

No I know that, and then later on he changed it to the "no non-vetted muslims". What is being said is he did not organize a specific event just to talk about Muslim banning. Which is what Lestov said republicans did. He certainly mentioned it at events, but he mentioned other things too.

Originally posted by Raisen
why the phuck are you mentioning political shit. republicans are generally garbage just like democrats.
i'm talking about American money dude. i'm a phucking registered libertarian.

My apologies. What I'm saying is that even if we banned refugees, republicans in congress would make sure that the leftover tax money wouldn't go to anything helpful.

Originally posted by Surtur
No I know that, and then later on he changed it to the "no non-vetted muslims". What is being said is he did not organize a specific event just to talk about Muslim banning. Which is what Lestov said republicans did. He certainly mentioned it at events, but he mentioned other things too.

At least his predictions are right, we got some idiots here who said this wasn't terrorism though.

He said last to declare war which we do along with our oldest allies the French, and Hilary said we don't.

Typical.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
At least his predictions are right, we got some idiots here who said this wasn't terrorism though.

He said last to declare war which we do along with our oldest allies the French, and Hilary said we don't.

Typical.

His predictions are both right and wrong. He was right about Europe's refugee crisis, but wrong about ours.

How so, they are coming here via refugees.

Obamas own administration said so.

Like I said, our refugee vetting system is WAY better. We don't need to worry about monitoring the refugees we have here because we already are. There's no reason to be afraid of them like Trump is.

But You can't vet these people. Isis occups all of Syrian's government offices, they can print passports now.

We bring these people here we will have generations of terrorism.

Look at what immigration has done to France.

Yeah we can. We've been doing so smoothly for the past 3 years. Again, we are not France or any other European country. We are the U.S.

Like I said, we've been vetting them for 3 years and a terrorist hasn't slipped through yet.

Wait till it starts, who will you blame then? This is coming here, and Clinton will allow it.

Originally posted by Lestov16
My apologies. What I'm saying is that even if we banned refugees, republicans in congress would make sure that the leftover tax money wouldn't go to anything helpful.

Probably. But would you rather see our money spent on things that I mentioned rather than taking in refugees. Does it make sense to you that perhaps we could have close to a utopia if we didn't spend money abroad. Expanding upon that, does it appear that our politicians are not serving our best interests by sustaining foreigners and giving foreign aid

I will blame the government for not doing a thorough background check. BUT that's IF it starts.

Instead of focusing on the refugees fleeing ISIS, why not examine these homegrown terrorists that ISIS seems to keep indoctrinating? They're the ones who have attacked us TWICE while the refugees have attacked us NEVER.