Ahsoka Tano vs Hero of Tython

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
Ahsoka
Idk
HOTlander

Ahsoka should beat any version bar Outlander

Where do people rank Outlander?

Above Arcann. Below Lana. 😉

End-game Hero of Tython should take this comfortably.

Lmao

Can someone explain why Ashoka is so good? Plenty of duelists have lasted a while against Vader and she looked a bit hurried along anyway. She stalemated with Maul who hasn't fought in however long and beat some low Jedi Knight tier Inquisitors. It annoyed me how 'good' she suddenly became because she left the order with not a massive amount of experience and training (not enough to face Vader anyway) and she was never some prodigy with the Saber like Exar Kun or some prodigy in the force like Anakin, she was just a really good Padawan :/

Rebels made Vader look sloppy too. Big, slow and uneasy cleaves at Ashoka and most of them missed :/

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Can someone explain why Ashoka is so good? Plenty of duelists have lasted a while against Vader and she looked a bit hurried along anyway. She stalemated with Maul who hasn't fought in however long and beat some low Jedi Knight tier Inquisitors.

Care to enlighten us on who exactly lasted a while against Vader?

Most of the examples I can think of are from 19 BBY, which was when he was still adjusting to his suit and working up his former power, whereas Filoni stated Rebels to be Vader's prime.

Aside from that there's a few people who come to mind:

Jax Pavan- who was in a slow retreat the whole time and had no hope of winning, but is also really impressive.

Ferus Olin- who really didn't measure up at all to Vader in their fights and only did so well by unbalancing Vader emotionally.

Galen Marek- who unbalanced Vader with Dun Moch but is also just really really good.

Starkiller- who is also just really really good

An'ya Kuro- who only lasted so long by running from Vader almost the entire time and never meeting Vader in prolonged martial engagements. Vader's superiority over her was so vast that she charged him at one point with her lightsaber while he was unarmed and he caught her arm and flung her into the ground.

Ben Kenobi- Also really legit and Vader was stated to be fighting cautiously

ESB Luke- Vader was testing him the entire time and Luke got a lucky hit before getting shrekt

ROTJ Luke- Also really really good.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
It annoyed me how 'good' she suddenly became because she left the order with not a massive amount of experience and training (not enough to face Vader anyway)

She was trained by Anakin Skywalker, learned multiple forms of lightsaber combat (Shii Cho, Ataru, Shien, Djem So, and Jar'kai) received quarterstaff training, is seemingly very well trained in using her body (ie. acrobatics and unarmed combat), and has quite a bit of experience from the clone wars. Not to mention, even without learning at the feet of a master, several characters have demonstrated that one can improve considerably as a duelist through continued refinement and practice of the moves one already possesses (given the sheer versatility of Ahsoka's fighting style she has quite a few), honing their bodies (which Ahsoka could do to an even greater disparity since she hadn't hit her physical prime yet), and deepening one's connection to the Force (which impacts dueling in numerous ways such as precognition, physical augmentation, augmented senses, etc.)

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
and she was never some prodigy with the Saber like Exar Kun

I'd say any padawan who has survived lightsaber duels against Asajj Ventress, Pre Vizsla, and General Grievous at ages 14-16 would qualify as a prodigy with the saber.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
or some prodigy in the force like Anakin,

Fact files disagrees with you:

As do some of Ahsoka's feats with telekinesis and physical augmentation.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
she was just a really good Padawan :/

That's an understatement.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Galen Marek- who unbalanced Vader with Dun Moch but is also just really really good.

Galen Marek attempted Dun Moch on Vader but it backfired like Dooku's on Anakin causing Vader to grow enraged and actually land a hit on him. Once both Vader and Galen had gotten the measure of each other the fight was to Galen's advantage.

I know I know I've heard it all before. I still don't find it convincing enough. The thing that annoyed me most is she was always going to be 'powerful' because that duel vs Vader was inevitable. Anakin was the chosen one and you're making it sound like Ashoka is better. She gets ragdolled by a TCW Grievous everytime though, Pre Vizsla isn't that great either but it's still impressive. Anyway cheers dmb :/

I'm a little busy to look into it atm, but if that's the case Galen's just that good.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
is seemingly very well trained in using her body

👆

Ashoka's duels were highly circumstantial and/or lucky in TCW and she still lost :/

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Lol @Act 2 Hero winning.

SOR Hero wins.

Outlander stomps.

Saying the Outlander stomps is outright hilarious, honestly. As of now, he's no Darth Vader either.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Saying the Outlander stomps is outright hilarious, honestly. As of now, he's no Darth Vader either.
And even if he was, he still wouldn't stomp shit.

Kekity kek.

Nah he wouldn't stomp, but he would win def.

Originally posted by Petrus
Kekity kek.