Ahsoka Tano vs Hero of Tython

🙂 🙂 🙂

Yeah Ahsoka vs Vader was hardly a "stomp" but that depends on your definition. mmm

mmm mmm mmm

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
I know I know I've heard it all before. I still don't find it convincing enough. The thing that annoyed me most is she was always going to be 'powerful' because that duel vs Vader was inevitable.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Anakin was the chosen one and you're making it sound like Ashoka is better.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
She gets ragdolled by a TCW Grievous everytime though,

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Pre Vizsla isn't that great either but it's still impressive.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Ashoka's duels were highly circumstantial and/or lucky in TCW and she still lost :/

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Anyway cheers dmb :/

Originally posted by cs_zoltan

Anyway now that I'm at home, personally I put the Hero as winning every round. Ahsoka fighting Vader is way overrated, Ben Kenobi managed that shit. The Hero beating Scourge, partially pushing through Vitiates lightning and being the most powerful Jedi of the era is enough for me to give her the win, even as of Act II.

Ahsoka isn't stronger than the Barsen'thor. The Hero of Tython is.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ahsoka fighting Vader is way overrated, Ben Kenobi managed that shit.

Oh wait.

The Hero beating Scourge, partially pushing through Vitiates lightning and being the most powerful Jedi of the era is enough for me to give her the win, even as of Act II.

Ahsoka isn't stronger than the Barsen'thor. The Hero of Tython is.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lmao. Because Ben Kenobi wasn't considered one of the most powerful Jedi ever, didn't benefit from his sheer mastery over Soresu, and Vader wasn't being overly cautious due to the events on Mustafar.

Oh wait.

Ben was weakened with age and out of practice. A few months was enough make a noticeable difference in his ability when he fought Hett. He wasn't nearly on par with his RotS self.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Stalemating Maul > defeating Scourge imo. And Ahsoka withstood Palpatine's lightning as a Padawan, so not that impressed. 🙂

An old Maul that was then owned by Kanan? Kekno. Ahsoka did that straight off of the Fifth Brother stalemating her for several minutes, so don't act as if fighting someone for a while actually matters in Rebels. Rebels Maul is a joke, beating Scourge is the better feat and far more conclusive evidence than not losing to someone quickly.

I suspect you're lying about that or theres some absurd context I'm unaware of. Regardless, poop on the wind my friend.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Proof?

You can google my respect thread easily enough.

Beating Scourge > Not getting your shit pushed in by Vader?

Lel neph kill yourself.

Beating Scourge who struggled with factory droids and whose best feat is killing nobodies?

Lol

Originally posted by Nephthys
Ben was weakened with age and out of practice. A few months was enough make a noticeable difference in his ability when he fought Hett. He wasn't nearly on par with his RotS self.

An old Maul that was then owned by Kanan? Kekno. Ahsoka did that straight off of the Fifth Brother stalemating her for several minutes, so don't act as if fighting someone for a while actually matters in Rebels. Rebels Maul is a joke, beating Scourge is the better feat and far more conclusive evidence than not losing to someone quickly.

I suspect you're lying about that or theres some absurd context I'm unaware of. Regardless, poop on the wind my friend.

"This was a moment where Ahsoka was actually protecting the Holocron Vault by impaling her lightsaber into this doorway to melt it shut, and Sidious was actually on the other side of this big door sending Force lightning up her lightsaber blade and out the other side to attack her." ~ Dave Filoni

But seeing as this is her at 17 years old, yeah it compares. Not that pulling off something Tol Braga managed is that impressive. Poop in the wind indeed.

You can google my respect thread easily enough.

Beni, you really using concepts that aren't even canon now? Unless they are going to be at some point, don't think using them really helps.

Originally posted by Nephthys
An old Maul that was then owned by Kanan? Kekno. Ahsoka did that straight off of the Fifth Brother stalemating her for several minutes, so don't act as if fighting someone for a while actually matters in Rebels. Rebels Maul is a joke, beating Scourge is the better feat and far more conclusive evidence than not losing to someone quickly.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Beni, you really using concepts that aren't even canon now? Unless they are going to be at some point, don't think using them really helps.

It must've been quite a door that Sidious couldn't just fart it open.

Well it was the door to the Holocron Vault, I assume it was protected against the dark side in a similar manner to the Jedi Temple on Lothal.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
They where confirmed to be more or less legitimate by Dave & Pablo, though granted I'd treat them in a similar way to cut content from KOTOR II.

Where did they confirm? They just talked about em I recall.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Weakened physically but more powerful in the Force. So not really. Hett's biggest advantage being the terrain.

Irrelevant, they didn't have a Force battle, they dueled. Kenobi was weaker and less able than he once was. And again irrelevant, Kenobi still mentions his degeneration. It's still a thing even at that point. Dude had like an extra 19 years of getting old and rusty as ****.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lol at using Kanan's Oneness feat as proof of anything. And there is a difference between fightning someone for a while and neither opponent gaining and advantage over one-another. Which yes matters, noting that Ahsoka was decidely driving the Fifth Brother back.

Hardly. He's the one driving her back at the start of the fight, even knocking her off balance at one point. There wasn't anything decisive about their fight before Maul joined in. But please, support that statement with facts from the fight, I'm all ears.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
You're afraid, and rightly so. But naw the only contexts is there was a door between them:

"This was a moment where Ahsoka was actually protecting the Holocron Vault by impaling her lightsaber into this doorway to melt it shut, and Sidious was actually on the other side of this big door sending Force lightning up her lightsaber blade and out the other side to attack her." ~ Dave Filoni

But seeing as this is her at 17 years old, yeah it compares. Not that pulling off something Tol Braga managed is that impressive. Poop in the wind indeed.

Absolute cancur. Trying to use non-canon concept art? The air is ripe with shit atm.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah I looked, found nothing. 👆

I have like a billion quotes saying the Hero > 'Thor and Thor's feats speak for themselves better than not getting murdered by Vader does.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Where did they confirm? They just talked about em I recall.

"When the Clone Wars series ended production there were three Ahsoka arcs still left to tell." ~ Pablo Hidalgo

And the concept art shown was according to Filoni, essentially what we would have seen on screen:

"Every single episode of Clone Wars has a bunch of drawings that goes with it. And there are shots that you see on that day I would say about 95% of the time are shots that actually end up in the episodes." ~ Dave Filoni.

So its essentially a visual script, with them using the confrontation between Maul & Ahsoka as a basis for how they wrote Rebels:

"There would have been a full on confrontation [between Ahsoka & Maul], which is why when the face each other in Rebels Maul absolutely knows who Ahsoka is.

[...]

We consider it to have happened so that's how we inform the writing in Rebels because that's the history that these characters carry [...]" ~ Pablo Hidalgo

So yeah I'd say it holds some considerable weight. 👆

It isn't remotely legit. Those episodes were never produced and don't exist, any more than Maul ragdolling Sidious does.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
They talked about them as unwritten story arcs:

"When the Clone Wars series ended production there were three Ahsoka arcs still left to tell." ~ Pablo Hidalgo

And the concept art shown was according to Filoni, essentially what we would have seen on screen:

"Every single episode of Clone Wars has a bunch of drawings that goes with it. And there are shots that you see on that day I would say about 95% of the time are shots that actually end up in the episodes." ~ Dave Filoni.

So its essentially a visual script, with them using the confrontation between Maul & Ahsoka as a basis for how they wrote Rebels:

"There would have been a full on confrontation [between Ahsoka & Maul], which is why when the face each other in Rebels Maul absolutely knows who Ahsoka is.

[...]

We consider it to have happened so that's how we inform the writing in Rebels because that's the history that these characters carry [...]" ~ Pablo Hidalgo

Hm...but then, Canon has it that only things officially published are...well canon right?

I mean fair enough with the Maul fighting Ahsoka since that was referenced in the S2 Finale, but the other things? Not entirely sure, unless it's referenced elsewhere.