Sentry vs Superman in a Mavel/DC switch

Started by RealityWarper6 pages
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Pretty sure MM was depowered

He wasn't.

The Dark Reign Files and Tom Brevoort whom edited the Dark Reign comics both confirmed it.

Originally posted by deathslash
the last time that superman inspired anyone was when he died.

Ha, that's funny. So, when was the last time Bruce inspired anyone again?

Superman's story's so powerful that he even affects the real world. Go and read All Star Superman, then come back and talk to me.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Ignore the troll.

srsly

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Originally posted by RealityWarper
He wasn't.

The Dark Reign Files and Tom Brevoort whom edited the Dark Reign comics both confirmed it.

Post the links? I believe u i just wanna see it again

Originally posted by SquallX
Ha, that's funny. So, when was the last time Bruce inspired anyone again?
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Batman Incorporated? Batman and the outsiders? Battle of the cowl? We are Robin? Batwing #1/ Batwing #2? Batgordon? Gotham and Gotham Girl?

Literally all of those happened within the timespan of a few years.

Because Superman doesn't have an entire Legion of Superheroes inspired by his example...

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Post the links? I believe u i just wanna see it again

I explained it in this article that Owen had no negative beliefs on his abilities and therefore was at full power:

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/death-seed-sentry-vs-superman-inspired-team-1658845/?page=2#js-message-14290836

You can notice that's only Owen's negative beliefs about his abilities that weakens his power. His mental state doesn't matter at all.

I can show you all marvel handbooks and datafiles refering to the fact that Owen's abilities are only weakened by his beliefs into them.

Tom Brevoort, the Marvel's Editor whom editor the Dark Reign story, confirmed that Owen wasn't weakened or depowered thus confirming that Owen was at his best:

Anyway Sentry's creator Paul Jenkins confirmed that Sentry is a reality warper far more powerful than Molecule Man and Beyonder.

Bendis whom was Sentry's main writer during ages said on his site that he used Sentry the same way that Jenkins did and he confirmed that Sentry has no limit to his power-level and that he has the ability to craft/ to form a reality at a molecular-level:
This naturally leads to the conclusion that there is no need for the writer to weaken Owen Reece as Sentry's power is limitless.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Because Superman doesn't have an entire Legion of Superheroes inspired by his example...
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Originally posted by deathslash
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Batman Incorporated? Batman and the outsiders? Battle of the cowl? We are Robin? Batwing #1/ Batwing #2? Batgordon? Gotham and Gotham Girl?

Literally all of those happened within the timespan of a few years.

Ever heard of The Supermen Dynasties? That right there beats anyone Bruce has ever inspired. Not only that Clark's story was the one that inspired the Legion into becoming who they are.

Hell, Superman's is so over the top that villains both fears and respect him. Clark has even inspires and awe powerful entities because of his character.

Come to me when Batman has inspired Generations of Generations of beings into holding his values.

And like i said before, Clark stories has become so inspiring that it transcends it's own medium.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Because Superman doesn't have an entire Legion of Superheroes inspired by his example...
Hadta post this...

Originally posted by Galan007
Hadta post this...

There a Harambe joke in there.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
That's wrong.

Molecule Man had no negative beliefs about his abilities during Dark Reign and what lower his power-level is when he believes he can't do something... Which was the opposite during Dark Reign, Owen got rid of his previous negative beliefs about his abilities and thus was at full power.

The power levels Owen showed came nowhere near even a fraction of those he showed at his height. I don't mean to suggest an in story reason was given for this, I'm just going by the showing. Owen and Beyonder were tossing universes and shit at each other. Sentry simply never displayed that much power.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hadta post this...

The Grey and red s emblem reminds me of Val-Zod Wonder if this was looked at.

Originally posted by Surtur
The power levels Owen showed came nowhere near even a fraction of those he showed at his height. I don't mean to suggest an in story reason was given for this, I'm just going by the showing. Owen and Beyonder were tossing universes and shit at each other. Sentry simply never displayed that much power.
👆 His powers at that time were "local" in scope which is fact

Originally posted by Surtur
The power levels Owen showed came nowhere near even a fraction of those he showed at his height. I don't mean to suggest an in story reason was given for this, I'm just going by the showing. Owen and Beyonder were tossing universes and shit at each other. Sentry simply never displayed that much power.

There is no reason for those two characters to display collateral damages when all they have to do is focus on each other molecules/energies.
Moreover Molecule Man mastery over his powers has been greatly improved since his last fight against the Beyonder.

And this:

Originally posted by -Pr-
Because Superman doesn't have an entire Legion of Superheroes inspired by his example...
I know about them and most of the other Superman related groups. I was just poking fun at the thought that Batman practically said Superman was uninspiring and Clark had no rebuttal.

Originally posted by deathslash
I know about them and most of the other Superman related groups. I was just poking fun at the thought that Batman practically said Superman was uninspiring and Clark had no rebuttal.

That's because Clark doesn't go around and put others down just to feel better about himself, especially not someone he considers both one of his best and friends and brother in all but blood.

That's the difference between Clark and Bruce. Bruce put others down so he can feel superior because of his inadequacy, where as Clark could care less.

That scene clearly showed who's the bigger man. Because if Clark wanted too he could have brought up all the time Bruce almost died and no one was even remotely inspired.

From Bane breaking his back
Joker killing Jason
Joker paralyzing Barbara

Those are 3 of his biggest failings, and no one cared less in the DC verse, where as Clark's Death inspired a new wave of Heroes, and Villains stopped to show respect to Clark's legacy.

So come back when you have something better.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
There is no reason for those two characters to display collateral damages when all they have to do is focus on each other molecules/energies.
Moreover Molecule Man mastery over his powers has been greatly improved since his last fight against the Beyonder.

MM and Beyonder both had their power levels massively reduced after everything they did was retconned as some Celestial's dream or some shit like that.

Originally posted by SquallX
That's because Clark doesn't go around and put others down just to feel better about himself, especially not someone he considers both one of his best and friends and brother in all but blood.

That's the difference between Clark and Bruce. Bruce put others down so he can feel superior because of his inadequacy, where as Clark could care less.

That scene clearly showed who's the bigger man. Because if Clark wanted too he could have brought up all the time Bruce almost died and no one was even remotely inspired.

From Bane breaking his back
Joker killing Jason
Joker paralyzing Barbara

Those are 3 of his biggest failings, and no one cared less in the DC verse, where as Clark's Death inspired a new wave of Heroes, and Villains stopped to show respect to Clark's legacy.

So come back when you have something better.

Hahahaha no

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
MM and Beyonder both had their power levels massively reduced after everything they did was retconned as some Celestial's dream or some shit like that.

To be more specific Beyonder's power was reduced to the point that his showings against the Celestials were an illusions induced by them

However it doesn't change Beyonder and Molecule Man feats of affecting the Marvel Omniverse two times.

Molecule Man remains an Omniversal-being... So is Sentry.

Owen was confirmed by Lifegiver Galactus whom is more powerful than Lord Chaos and Master Order (and than his former Eater of World-self) to be capable to erase him with a tough.

Considering the fact that Sentry overpowered and destroyed with a though and that Jenkins and Bendis confirmed him to be above Owen that speaks volumes about his power-level.