Originally posted by Azronger
Nah, the scan was just a Force push. This quote solidifies Luke's superiority as a Force user.
A Force Push that disarmed Sedriss and left him defensless, on the floor and gasping.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
That Ood Bnar thing was referring to his tree powers.Ood in the comics never made an actual barrier around anything, he just turned himself into a tree that caused a giant earthquake that no one could cut through.
Tree powers, LMAO. Ood just created a barrier as per Fact File. I take it's canonical statement over your fan-theories.
Originally posted by MythLordThen the fact file retconned the comic, in which we see the entire fight take place, Ood Bnar turned into a tree and blocked the lightsabers so Kun couldn't get them.
A Force Push that disarmed Sedriss and left him defensless, on the floor and gasping.Tree powers, LMAO. Ood just created a barrier as per Fact File. I take it's canonical statement over your fan-theories.
Kun almost died and then left.
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Putting you in the same category as every other Caedus supporter in this thread.
Not supporting Caedus, just here to defend Luke.
So what qualifies him as someone who can dominate the likes of Luke? If the text of a book describing a loquacious manner where Luke needs every defensive technique Yoda taught - implying he knew more than the Jedi-standard book of spells - and still gets taken out by Kun, doesn't imply obvious superiority, then what does? Do you have any proof that goes against the text? Other than your assertive opinion? Because anyone is capable of asserting themselves. For example, Exar should capable of dominating the Son and Ableoth at the same time. Don't ask me for a structured argument on the matter, I won't be providing one.
That would depend on your definition of 'dominate'. Kun won't be, for example, ragdolling Luke, nor will he be able to harm him with his lightsaber or amulet blasts (see Wollf's post).
The technique Kun used on Luke was used to rip Luke's spirit from his body. Luke did not know how to defend against it. It's that simple, really. If you consider that domination, then so be it.
Yes the fight was circumstantial, the circumstance was that Kun could only use a fraction of his true power and parcel segment of his abilties. If I was to argue insomuch that Revan defeated Malak, you wouldn't attempt to rebut that by explaining how the Star Forge makes the fight unfair, would you? Revan had the odds stacked against him, as did Kun. Both emerged for a short lived victory.
Not relevant. Exar's raw power wouldn't matter in a confrontation with DE Luke. He loses a conventional battle regardless of his state of existence, but wins a war of esoteric Force powers, again, regardless of his state of existence.
Well in that case, Exar should just dominate everyone and anyone who doesn't know the specific counter-sign, despite your theory not being supported by text. I suppose you believe Kun simply overrides natural talent and raw power... even when you know :1) Luke has his own set of defensive showings
2) That even his father couldn't replicate
3) And that sometimes, oftentimes, defence against the dark arts is as simple as drawing upon the light side of the Force TM .
Well, yes. If Kun used the same technique on anybody who doesn't know anything about Essence Transfer and related abilities, he could defeat them. He won't overcome Luke via conventional methods, though.
An undertaking that shouldn't be too difficult or complex for someone who could use the light side of the Force to sever Palpatine's control over a space distorting storm that was about to engulf an entire fleet. Now Kun might have conjured a technique that Luke, by merit of knowledge, couldn't counter. But that by itself, and just by itself, means Kun can dominate people of DE Luke's caliber. Caedus doesn't remotely compare to Kun in knowledge of the Sith arts, so he should just be taken out as easily.
Sever Force has nothing to do with spirit-related abilities. And if you're just saying this to indirectly say Kun>Palpatine, then I'm afraid you're out of luck; he also knows the exact same technique Kun does, so he'd know how to defend against it.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Then the fact file retconned the comic, in which we see the entire fight take place, Ood Bnar turned into a tree and blocked the lightsabers so Kun couldn't get them.Kun almost died and then left.
If Bnar was an immobile tree, then Kun could've simply walked past him... but he couldn't because the surge of Ood Bnar's barrier would've damaged him. The same barrier Sedriss managed to counter-balance, break and then take Ood's life alongside his own.
Originally posted by MythLordUnderstand what you're saying now.
If Bnar was an immobile tree, then Kun could've simply walked past him... but he couldn't because the surge of Ood Bnar's barrier would've damaged him. The same barrier Sedriss managed to counter-balance, break and then take Ood's life alongside his own.
Conceded.
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Then the fact file retconned the comic, in which we see the entire fight take place, Ood Bnar turned into a tree and blocked the lightsabers so Kun couldn't get them.Kun almost died and then left.
Just because the barrier wasn't visible in the comic doesn't mean it wasn't there. We never see Jedi's Force shields that they use to defend against TK, but they're still there regardless.
Same thing here.
