Kun's I, Jedi accolade/feat, Kun > Luke confirmed.

Originally posted by AncientPower
If me 'taking bait' was relevant, then sure, exemplary performance Slice. But in the grand scheme of things Zig, I am establishing a character as a powerhouse ehilst he's being a bitter fool about it.

The genuinely disappointing factor in all of this, is Beni himself, who was once an intellectual and a respected debater, now he's Ant's laughing stock.

But yeah, if we are rating ourselves in relation to Ant's opinion (God knows why lmao) then you definitely lose that one. 😉

Krayt and Revan are completely irrelevant here, but it certainly can be argued based of this, that Kun is superior or on level to DE Sidious.

My post got lost.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Not sure what you mean friend, I have some official sketches that are pretty legit tho, wanna see them?

Anyway AP when are you going to follow through with your logic? If a severely weakened Kun with no meaningful help from Kyp >> post-DE Luke, how is he only Krayt/Revan level and losing to Darth Sidious in his physical prime?

Originally posted by Petrus
To be honest, AP, I would also like an answer to this. Not in the form of mockery though, I'm genuinely curious about what you'd answer.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Krayt and Revan are completely irrelevant here, but it certainly can be argued based of this, that Kun is superior or on level to DE Sidious.

But yeah, it can, so I'm asking why AP isn't making it.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Not asking you friend. 🙂

But yeah, it can, so I'm asking why AP isn't making it.

Well, if I may interject here, AP is limiting herself because she's worried about Kun's standing in the eyes of popular opinion. Worried that if she argues such a case in favour of Kun, the masses may turn on her. The problem is, they already do that anyway. So really, it's another case of motives rather than objective truth. But AP has nothing to loose by admitting Kun > Palpatine, and I'd advise to just let loose and go for it.

AP is a coward, yeah. 🙂

Alright, a few things to note, here.

1.) Yes, obviously when Kyp is possessed by Exar Kun, his powers skyrocket; this has already been established. Exar is far more proficient in utilizing his power than the barely-trained Kyp, and his spirit is amplifying his powers as well.

2.) Saying that Exar Kun's power is reliant on the temples as a spirit doesn't prove that he's far weaker in Dark Apprentice than he would be normally. It just proves that he's far weaker than he would be with a body and the temples.

3.) The reason Exar Kun can be better than JA Luke but not Sidious is because JA Luke isn't nearly as impressive as Sidious. That's all.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
3.) The reason Exar Kun can be better than JA Luke but not Sidious is because JA Luke isn't nearly as impressive as Sidious. That's all.

And altogether, I doubt Corran Horn is really aware of what Luke is fully capable of.

Half a decade could be considered a lot of time for someone like Luke, y'know. 🙂

True, though I would argue his growth curve would steadily level out, and even then it's a phenomenal feat that surpasses most of Sheev's.

most.

And it surpasses most of Luke's, too. 🙂

A few years prior swiftly defeated DE Palpatine with Leia's BM. Didn't he also claim around this point to be able to tear apart capital ships?

He was also crushed by him on Byss. I'm also not convinced that defeating DE Palpatine in a lightsaber duel amounts to anything close to being comparable to Palpatine on the whole, besides.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He was also crushed by him on Byss. I'm also not convinced that defeating DE Palpatine in a lightsaber duel amounts to anything close to being comparable to Palpatine on the whole, besides.

If Leia Organa Solo had not been there, Palpatine would have killed Luke Skywalker with his powers.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
most.

And it surpasses most of Luke's, too. 🙂

And while it's certainly not definitive proof he's more powerful than Sidious, it more than puts him in his league tbh.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He was also crushed by him on Byss. I'm also not convinced that defeating DE Palpatine in a lightsaber duel amounts to anything close to being comparable to Palpatine on the whole, besides.

It's also arguable that Luke being straddled between light and dark at that earlier point weakened him somewhat.

EDIT: Double post

@AP: So you're bitching about me only insulting people, then says it's a new low when I insult you, and apparently everyone. That makes sense.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Oh, I can certainly empathise with this.

But if we're speaking candidly Fresh, there are other motives at play here. It's no secret that AP has a track record of gobbling up bait, especially when said bait is dangled right in front of her nose. It's also no surprise that waving the red flag to her indignative horns, can produce some very amusing results. But bringing light to AP's reactive personality and her insistance to prove Kun's glory, produces only a relative conviction, and makes no difference whatever to the objective truth of the matter.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
but half a decade.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Alright, a few things to note, here.

1.) Yes, obviously when Kyp is possessed by Exar Kun, his powers skyrocket; this has already been established. Exar is far more proficient in utilizing his power than the barely-trained Kyp, and his spirit is amplifying his powers as well.

2.) Saying that Exar Kun's power is reliant on the temples as a spirit doesn't prove that he's far weaker in Dark Apprentice than he would be normally. It just proves that he's far weaker than he would be with a body and the temples.

3.) The reason Exar Kun can be better than JA Luke but not Sidious is because JA Luke isn't nearly as impressive as Sidious. That's all.

I don't know why they decided to make it out as if this means Kun > DE Sidious, when that doesn't need to be even remotely true.

Well, that's what sometimes happens when you make threads titled "Kun>Luke confirmed."

As expected, Ap has not the testicular fortitude to take her arguments to the next level.