Kun's I, Jedi accolade/feat, Kun > Luke confirmed.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
@AP: So you're bitching about me only insulting people, then says it's a new low when I insult you, and apparently everyone. That makes sense.

For you maybe. A great many people are tired of seeing a new Kun thread every week, and continuing to post more and more of them has done the opposite of help his image. A year or two ago, I'd have said Kun was definitely a Sidious level combatant, but lately I've been forced to look at him with my own eyes, is the point.

Your first point makes no sense, but I'll leave you to figure out why.

The fact that you can't take debating Kun regularly, but can sit around watching Revan wank, TOR wank, Sidious wank, Vader wank and Tano wank without a problem, suggests that it is a problem with your cognitive dissonance.

You allowing yourself to be so bitter about the matter that you're even going around actively dismissing Kun's new feats/accolades and jpining Beni in Carthaging about it says everything. I won't even start with Trocity, Selenial, Deronn and the others.

Chilax.

Let's just start with the Kun > Sidious movement, from a centered place. No need to restrict yourself.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Well, that's what sometimes happens when you make threads titled "Kun>Luke confirmed."

Yes, because I would've thought it obvious that being > JA Luke is an entirely different prospect from being a > GM Luke incarnation. Considering Luke doesn't even approach Sidious way up until TUF feats, I'd have thought that was self-evident.

I've been conversing with Tom Veitch over this particular issue on Facebook, and he is warming himself to the idea of Kun beating DE Palaptine.

I don't feel like my question has been properly addressed tbh. ❌

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Chilax.

Let's just start with the Kun > Sidious movement, from a centered place. No need to restrict yourself.

Or we can talk about how your 'movement' is in spite of Kun, not for him. Pretending that your arguments are nothing more or less than anti-Gideon won't do you any favors with me. It is you and Nai with your incessant need to prove _____ > Sidious that has damaged Kun's image in the first place. I've been cleaning up the mess you two began a long time ago.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
I've been conversing with Tom Veitch over this particular issue on Facebook, and he is warming himself to the idea of Kun beating DE Palaptine.

I thought he already believed so.

KJA has said that the most powerful Sith would be decided in a battle between Kun and Palpatine, but that was eons ago.

Dunno why you consider me a Kun hater, tbh, AP. mmm

It's more I have a high opinion of Vader, than a shitty one of Kun.

No, that was Kevin Anderson, I've had some very interesting convos with Tom, not that I think his opinions are relevent at this point. But hey, this is KMC in 2016, even the spoken word of Sam Witwer is a canon source.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Your first point makes no sense, but I'll leave you to figure out why.

The fact that you can't take debating Kun regularly, but can sit around watching Revan wank, TOR wank, Sidious wank, Vader wank and Tano wank without a problem, suggests that it is a problem with your cognitive dissonance.

You allowing yourself to be so bitter about the matter that you're even going around actively dismissing Kun's new feats/accolades and jpining Beni in Carthaging about it says everything. I won't even start with Trocity, Selenial, Deronn and the others.

You've made some decidedly anti-Kun statements in the past, but this can be forgiven.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Or we can talk about how your 'movement' is in spite of Kun, not for him. Pretending that your arguments are nothing more or less than anti-Gideon won't do you any favors with me. It is you and Nai with your incessant need to prove _____ > Sidious that has damaged Kun's image in the first place. I've been cleaning up the mess you two began a long time ago.

If you truly belive that either myself or Nai have bought about the majority of 'kun-trolling', then you are simply delusional.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Stellar rebuttal as always.

These aren't debates. It's you sharing your porn collection. Don't even pretend it's remotely the same thing.

What the hell are you even going on about? And for the record, you're the only one that's even remotely bitter. Shitting on Kun is a hobby, not a career. The fact that my niggas want to do it with me is irrelevant.

It makes itseof, why the logical conclusion evades you is for you to find out.

See that? We call that a biased point of view, the mere mention of Kun feats stirs you, as you just admitted, 'shitting on Kun' is your hobby after all. You've got nothing Slice, nothing but laughable attempts at derailing Kun threads with wild abandon.

Come back to me with real arguments or go back to retirement.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
No, that was Kevin Anderson, I've had some very interesting convos with Tom, not that I think his opinions are relevent at this point. But hey, this is KMC in 2016, even the spoken word of Sam Witwer is a canon source.

Kevin's the one that actually didn't say anything of the sort. Vietch was the one who never considered Palpatine the strongest among the Sith.

Lol @ at this salt, AP be lashing out at everyone. 🙂

Back on topic though yeah I'm not convincing with this reasoning. Claiming Kun > JA Luke is one thing. But that's straw manning the question, what's being claimed here is that a significantly weakened Kun can essentially render Luke helpless with no significant outside involvement. That would make prime Kun vastly more powerful than Luke, heck even more than that, which not only is Sidious unable to claim, but he himself has no feats that > one-shotting Luke as a low-end showing. Lol.

And that's without even getting to him being a peer to Krayt and Revan lol.

Honestly I doubt FS actually has an issue with Kun. I think he's just a huge chode in general.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
If you truly belive that either myself or Nai have bought about the majority of 'kun-trolling', then you are simply delusional.

Considering you and Nai are the ones who started Kun > Palpatine on CV and turned almost every star wars debater against Kun's image, I'd say you'd have to be delusional or just plain ignorant, to not know what you've done.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
what's being claimed here is that a significantly weakened Kun can essentially render Luke helpless with no significant outside involvement. That would make prime Kun vastly more powerful than Luke, heck even more than that, which not only is Sidious unable to claim, but he himself has no feats that > one-shotting Luke as a low-end showing. Lol.

Kun already oneshot Odan-Urr, the Yoda of his era, before his prime. Is it so hard to believe that once he reached the height of his powers he is unmatched by anyone in the mythos?

Originally posted by Trocity
Kun already oneshot Odan-Urr, the Yoda of his era, before his prime. Is it so hard to believe that once he reached the height of his powers he is unmatched by anyone in the mythos?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lol @ at this salt, AP be lashing out at everyone. 🙂

Back on topic though yeah I'm not convincing with this reasoning. Claiming Kun > JA Luke is one thing. But that's straw manning the question, what's being claimed here is that a significantly weakened Kun can essentially render Luke helpless with no significant outside involvement. That would make prime Kun vastly more powerful than Luke, heck even more than that, which not only is Sidious unable to claim, but he himself has no feats that > one-shotting Luke as a low-end showing. Lol.

And that's without even getting to him being a peer to Krayt and Revan lol.

But Ap, we have our reasons to believe Kun is > Sidious, as above ^