Originally posted by brexit
No, opinions and assertions of anti-Trump rhetoric or distorting viewpoints into a narrow monded view that Hillary is the lesser of two evils and only every person who watches mainstream news is smart enough to have this view doesnt convince me.Trump is not a party establishment figure. He is above politics. He is bane.
Lmao
RE: Trump and the nukes:
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html
The video (autoplay i think, sorry) is only about a minute long. There's no real check on the president's decision to use nukes-- "the system is designed for speed and decisiveness."
It's worth noting that Trump in the last 3 hours has denied asking about nukes, but at this point his credibility w/r/t disavowing past statements is so low that I'm not inclined to believe him.
Originally posted by BackFire
That is not a very reassuring argument. You are essentially telling me that there are safeguards in place to keep a president from enacting anything that may indeed lead to a global disaster, that's not going to make me more likely to vote for Trump. I don't want to rely on safeguards to keep a president from doing something stupid because he lacks basic impulse control, I want a president who won't make those decisions in the first place.
I honestly don't think we would need the safeguards. In the sense that I don't think Trump would ever be launching nukes. You see when people think like that it's just silly because they are raising him to the level of some kind of super villain.
You ask why. The answer is by seeing how his campaign is run. Campaigns are important because they act as a microcosm into how the candidate would run the country. And Trump's campaign just seems to be nothing but chaos. There seems to be no planning, no thoughtfulness, no self control. If he runs his campaign in such a way, there is no reason to think that he'd run the country any better. Also the way he constantly lashes out at anyone who criticizes him is important. It shows that he is an insecure human being, and that he has extremely thin skin - not a good trait for a president. A president has to be able to simply ignore some things, and know when to keep your mouth shut. How will he react if another world leader criticizes him? I think he may absolutely do something stupid or reckless that ends up hurting the nation/world in some way. Do I literally think he's going to try and launch nukes at someone who makes fun of his hair or complexion? No. But his temperament matters to me, and when I see how he's so easy to distract, that is not a trait I find acceptable.
I'm not saying he doesn't have faults, but I'm just saying with Hilary there are faults too, just not the same kind. Not the obvious faults. The lies, the manipulation, the corruption. They aren't any better. I guess that is my issue. Like I said before, Trump is loud and obnoxious. So while we are looking at him Hilary is going to slip in the back door.
You also referenced his tax returns, as if it's not a reasonable criticism - it absolutely is. He's running on his supposed success as a business man, and he references his personal wealth constantly, however, his tax returns are essentially the only way to fact check those things, and he's suspiciously withholding them.
It's not about whether it is reasonable or not. She used it as a dodge when asked about her own shadyness.
And yes, Hillary is shady and a liar, but that is the business. Trump has lied, Trump has done shady things in his past as well. As far as I'm concerned that is a wash. Clinton at least comes across has having some semblance of self control and the ability to think before she speaks/acts. I don't think Trump does, which is why I refuse to vote for him.
See this is what I'm talking about. The lies and the manipulations of the Clintons go deeper than anything Trump has. Whenever these people are corrupt we just say "that's the business" and accept it. That is not normal to me, that is just..it doesn't make any sense. We're so complacent about this it is pathetic.
Other problems with him include, yes, he has said he wants to overturn Roe V Wade, and his running mate is a Christian loon who has supported gay conversion therapy and is against gay rights. Even if you ignore all else I've said about Trump, those two things alone are disqualifying for me.
I know there are issues, but to be honest I don't think you'll have to worry. At this point I think Hilary is going to win. If Trumo had tried to essentially stay quiet during the summer and prepare for the debates in the fall then maybe he would of, but with this politically correct culture we have now I think he can't win. So Hilary will win and then she'll just lie to us and manipulate us for the next 8 years. Then we'll just shrug our shoulders and accept it and say "that's politics".
Originally posted by Surtur
See this is what I'm talking about. The lies and the manipulations of the Clintons go deeper than anything Trump has. Whenever these people are corrupt we just say "that's the business" and accept it. That is not normal to me, that is just..it doesn't make any sense. We're so complacent about this it is pathetic.
1000x 👆
Originally posted by ZampanóThat's legitimately scary.
RE: Trump and the nukes:http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html
The video (autoplay i think, sorry) is only about a minute long. There's no real check on the president's decision to use nukes-- "the system is designed for speed and decisiveness."
It's worth noting that Trump in the last 3 hours has denied asking about nukes, but at this point his credibility w/r/t disavowing past statements is so low that I'm not inclined to believe him.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
At least she isn't questioning why we shouldn't use nuclear ****ing weapons. 😬 That's, like, off the charts stupidity.
I know because she keeps her shady shit behind closed doors. Like I said, Trump is loud and obnoxious and he's just making it easier for Hilary to just get away with all her lies and manipulation.
You know anything about Dungeons and Dragons? Hilary's alignment would be neutral evil while Trump's would be chaotic evil.
Originally posted by Surtur
I honestly don't think we would need the safeguards. In the sense that I don't think Trump would ever be launching nukes. You see when people think like that it's just silly because they are raising him to the level of some kind of super villain.I'm not saying he doesn't have faults, but I'm just saying with Hilary there are faults too, just not the same kind. Not the obvious faults. The lies, the manipulation, the corruption. They aren't any better. I guess that is my issue. Like I said before, Trump is loud and obnoxious. So while we are looking at him Hilary is going to slip in the back door.
It's not about whether it is reasonable or not. She used it as a dodge when asked about her own shadyness.
See this is what I'm talking about. The lies and the manipulations of the Clintons go deeper than anything Trump has. Whenever these people are corrupt we just say "that's the business" and accept it. That is not normal to me, that is just..it doesn't make any sense. We're so complacent about this it is pathetic.
I know there are issues, but to be honest I don't think you'll have to worry. At this point I think Hilary is going to win. If Trumo had tried to essentially stay quiet during the summer and prepare for the debates in the fall then maybe he would of, but with this politically correct culture we have now I think he can't win. So Hilary will win and then she'll just lie to us and manipulate us for the next 8 years. Then we'll just shrug our shoulders and accept it and say "that's politics".
Yes, as I said, I also don't think he'd actually launch nukes, that's not my point, my point is that his temperament and lack of self control makes me very wary of how he'd govern, and that, while yes, probably not trying to launch nukes, would end up doing something damaging to the country/world. You are basically telling me that I shouldn't worry because he won't actually cause an apocalypse. As if that's the only thing worth worrying about.
I know there are faults with Hillary - many many faults, I don't like her, and I would be open to voting for someone else, I am not a Hillary supporter or defender, I'm simply voting for her because I believe she is the lesser of two evils and I think her various flaws are less dangerous than Trump's. I think Trump would make a much worse president than she would.
I too think Trump will lose, especially after this disastrous week. He was in a good spot before this, but it seems he's really gone off the deep end this time, it's just a constant stream of bad decisions from him.