Marvel - DC Strength Equivalencies

Originally posted by Delta1938
'Cuz dynamic powers don't work the way you're trying to argue so you can dismiss them. Arm wrestling for pride isn't the same as what we've seen numerous times. He beat Doomsday to death in just a few blows(arguably one going by SUPERMAN: REBIRTH) despite being exhausted and injured, all the while Doomsday had been getting stronger the entire fight. Also, if you actually knew about Superman like you claim(you barely know shit about him), you'd know this was also a weaker era for Superman. Mongul's training was to overcome those very blocks, so kinda contradicts your own argument. And your "yeah fans count 🙄 " statement further shows your ignorance of Superman.

Irrelevant strawman, made all the worse by you acting like you know shit about Superman and bringing the wrong version. crylaugh Having a second way to power up does not negate his dynamic mental blocks, as anybody with a modicum of competence can understand.

He gets credit from people both competent AND knowledgeable about Superman because, (GASP) there's numerous in-story examples. 😱 I know!! Surprised me too that some people actually read more than Internet posts about comics!! Back to being serious, there's too many direct and indirect examples, including numerous stories based partially or entirely on Superman's powers being dynamic for anybody that isn't an idiot, ignorant, just in denial, or some combination of the three to deny. I've proven you were previously willing to BZ it, but then fear it when I challenged you. Your pathetic excuses for declining it are just that. Pathetic excuses.

You're welcome to BZ me on it, but considering your numerous excuses and even outright attempts to change my Superman vs Wonder Woman BZ challenge, and refuse to actually decline the challenge, just not answer to save what little pride you have left, I know you won't. Since you're a little kitten who's all hiss, no scratch.

👆

Originally posted by JBL
Now the big question. Why does superman sunamp or sundipp? If he had dynamic strength, does the sunamp or sundipp cancel out the mental blocks because he does get stronger.? How did all-star superman get 3 times stronger and how was that scientist able to know that if superman had no base limit to his strength? There are plenty other things.

When he sudipped he overpowered an abstract level being.

I don't know if you work out, but does a pre supplement double or triple your bench?

It may give you enough energy you knock out your reps.

Similarly superman sundipped to get enough energy needed to make his dynamic strength reach his abstract level potential.

Sign.... If superman had dynamic strength, why does every writer agrees that he and CM are close in strength? Why did the Marvel writer clearly state that Blue Marvel is in the same strength class as superman period? There is no until he cuts loose crap. He's not going to stop hold back and change the fact that he has peers. WW, black Adam and plenty others have battled an all out superman and did just fine and they were holding back on him. End of story.

Originally posted by JBL
Sign.... If superman had dynamic strength, why does every writer agrees that he and CM are close in strength? Why did the Marvel writer clearly state that Blue Marvel is in the same strength class as superman period? There is no until he cuts loose crap. He's not going to stop hold back and change the fact that he has peers. WW, black Adam and plenty others have battled an all out superman and did just fine and they were holding back on him. End of story.

Simultaneously a circular argument and strawman. Concessions accepted. Thanks for playing, we have some wonderful consolation prizes!!

Post Crisis
Superman (All-Out) - Sun God
Superman (regular Day) - Hulk
Wonder Woman - Gladiator
Shazam/Black Adam - Thor/Beta Ray Bill
Martian Manhunter - Hercules
Aquaman - Ms. Marvel
Orion - Forgotten One

Nu52
Superman (All-Out) - Sundown
Superman (regular Day) - Sun God
Wonder Woman (God of War, No Bracers) - Sentry
Wonder Woman (God of War, Bracers on) - Gladiator
Shazam/Black Adam - Thor/Beta Ray Bill
Martian Manhunter - Hyperion
Aquaman - Namor
Orion - Count Nefaria

Pre Crisis (Bronze)
Superman (All-Out) - Odin
Superman (regular Day) - Sundown

Pre Crisis (Silver Age)
Superman (All-Out) - Galactus
Superman (regular Day) - Odin

Originally posted by Delta1938
Simultaneously a circular argument and strawman. Concessions accepted. Thanks for playing, we have some wonderful consolation prizes!!

To be fair, it was pretty shaky logic in your post to begin with.

Originally posted by JBL
Lol. A fine way to rationalize your question dodging😁.

By and large everything has either already been addressed, or is a red herring or strawman. It's not dodging. But you're notone who should be accusing others of dodging. 😬

Question JBL. Has the Blue Marvel writer you're citing actually written Superman?

Originally posted by Delta1938
By and large everything has either already been addressed, or is a red herring or strawman. It's not dodging. But you're notone who should be accusing others of dodging. 😬

Originally posted by Delta1938
Question JBL. Has the Blue Marvel writer you're citing actually written Superman?

Originally posted by JBL
Answer the question. Why did superman say that he and Marvel were too evenly matched if he knew he had dynamic strength? Does mental blocks make him a liar? Quit stalling😁

😆 Anybody with good knowledge of Superman would know how generous he is with lip service. For ****'s sake, he's compared characters he later beat down to Doomsday.

And even if it weren't it doesn't negate his powers being dynamic. You're making arguments that don't jive with the comics. If you'd read them you MIGHT understand this.

Originally posted by JBL
He knows the characters history. He knows about superman.

So I'll accept this as a concession that he had never written Superman. You arguing this doesn't mean anything. I can show you two different writers who did in fact write Superman for a few years each, including John Byrne(creator of Post-CRISIS Superman), saying Superman has dynamic powers.

Also, can you give me a link to this Blue Marvel writer quote?

Originally posted by JBL
Lol. A fine way to rationalize your question dodging😁. But I will give you one more chance. Who's stronger, superman or Kurse?

Ask him who's stronger, Superman or Superboy Prime.

Originally posted by carver9
Ask him who's stronger, Superman or Superboy Prime.

The combination of fallacy using you cheerleading fallacy using him could create a hole in the space/time continuum. Thanks assholes for dooming us all. 😠

Who wrote Blue Marvel that said that?