Originally posted by SunRazer
Well, I'm primarily referring to others in this thread. I mean, the bravado's fun and all when it's done for jokes - but when it's done seriously, it just makes you look more pathetic. And I know the lot of you will just claim "I'm not being serious" etc.
If you're going to throw shade my way, at least have the balls to actually respond directly, you p*ssy.
LMAO.
There is no "running away" from anything - I've stated countless times I don't seriously debate here in numerous threads, so it's not like it's something I literally pulled out of my ass for the sake of "running" from an online debate, on a shitty internet forum.
Take that Quanchi shit somewhere else, Nova.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You (as a player) get the option to take two companions with you throughout the game with the exception of some quests. However, taking companions with you is not compulsory. You can choose to proceed [solo], if you intend to. Involvement of companions is a matter of personal choice and a facet of game-play mechanics.However, when you look at the developments in a game from strictly storytelling perspective, you concentrate on dialogue and cut-scenes. Consider the following example:
When Revan infiltrated Star Forge, Darth Malak was alerted to his presence (or sensed his presence) and his initial decision was to dispatch an 'army' of Star Forge battle-droids to stop Revan. It is implied that Star Forge battle-droids were far from ordinary and capable of defeating Jedi. However, Revan destroyed this army, and he was (exclusively) credited for this victory by Darth Malak and his commander in their next meeting. The game also gives us an impression that Revan's progress was being closely monitored. Afterwards, Darth Malak ordered his commander to dispatch all available troops and Sith to confront Revan.
Now, Star Forge was an enormous structure. One would logically expect a substantial presence of Imperial forces in it; thousands would be a reasonable estimate. Of-course, Dark Jedi and Sith would be minority among them but it is not far-fetched to expect them to be lot more than a dozen in total. Darth Malak could not afford to take Battle of Rakata Prime casually; he would have ordered every [available] well-trained Dark Jedi and Sith to participate in this battle to ensure victory.
I don't remember every dialogue taking place in KoTOR game but most of what I have stated is hinted/implied in the game.
As for Revan taking on several opponents simultaneously, I don't think this is far-fetched assumption either. He is officially (and exclusively) credited for defeating an army of Star Forge battle-droids and high-profile individuals in the Star Forge. I recall that you have to proceed solo from the position of Bastila Shan, no matter what. She denies entry of your companions in her chamber. After tackling her, you are forced to confront another 'army' of Star Forge battle-droids and this time you also need to sabotage machinery summoning them non-stop.
To be honest, I am not convinced that Revan would have found it nearly impossible to call upon the Force within the Star Forge. He visited Korriban earlier and had no option but to participate in the Sith trails to get access to a Star Map. He might have learned to use the Dark Side to his advantage during this time. The novel confirms that Revan acquired a unique perspective (and understanding) of the ways of Force from his experiences during the events of KoTOR. Revan was even willing to share his knowledge with prospective students.
Should we assume that Revan's companions also infiltrated Star Forge and/or accompanied him, it is just as likely that they participated in their own ways and Revan would still have proceeded solo. See above.
Can I get the quote stating the SF battledroids were capable of defeating Jedi?
I would agree with you but we're given specific numbers by the Prima Guide as Ant already quoted.
Where does it mention Revan exclusively defeated these opponents?
If Bastilla actually denies your companions entry then that would sort of hint at the fact that you had companions accompanying you wouldn't it?
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Glad we can agree on that at least.
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Fair enough in regards to checkpoints after Bastilla but that would have meant they were present beforehand when Revan is facing these enemy Force users.
Originally posted by Syndicate
Can I get the quote stating the SF battledroids were capable of defeating Jedi?
"It... it was Revan, Lord Malak. Your old master is with the Jedi, here on the Star Forge!"
"Yes, that would explain why the droids had failed. Revan was always strong in the Force. Very well - send out all available troops. The apprentices, as well!"
Warning!
Here are my lists:
Sabers:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda/Darth Sidious
3. Darth Sidious/Yoda
4. Anakin Skywalker
5. Darth Caedus
6. Darth Krayt
7. Mace Windu/Darth Tyranus
8. Mace Windu/Darth Tyranus
9. Darth Vader
10. Exar Kun
11. Jaina Solo/Obi-Wan Kenobi/Cade Skywalker/Ulic-Quel Droma
12. Jaina Solo/Obi-Wan Kenobi/Cade Skywalker/Ulic-Quel Droma
13. Jaina Solo/Obi-Wan Kenobi/Cade Skywalker/Ulic-Quel Droma
14. Jaina Solo/Obi-Wan Kenobi/Cade Skywalker/Ulic-Quel Droma
15. Karness Muur/Arcann/Outlander
Not ranking Plagueis and Tenebrous, as they are to unknown and Revan, as I can´t rank him.
Force Power:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Darth Sidious
3. Yoda
4. Valkorion
5. Darth Plagueis/Anakin Skywalker
6. Anakin Skywalker/Darth Plagueis
7. Kyp Durron
8. Darth Krayt
9. Darth Tenebrous
10. Revan/Exar Kun
11. Revan/Exar Kun
12. Darth Vader
13. Marka Ragnos
14. Starkiller
15. Freedon Nadd
Not ranking Caedus, as the fuqqer is hard to rank in the force, lol. Also not Onimi, UnuThul, Nyax etc.
Force:
1. Luke Skywalker
2. Darth Sidious
3. Yoda
4. Valkorion
5. Darth Plagueis
6. Revan
7. Darth Krayt
8. Darth Tenebrous
9. Exar Kun
10. Kyp Durron
11. Darth Vader
12. Marka Ragnos
13. Starkiller
14. Freedon Nadd
15. ??
Again, not ranking Caedus, UnuThul and co.
Also not Anakin, as he is hard to rank not-power-wise
Lightsaber Combat:
Luke Skywalker
Mace Windu
Darth Sidious
Yoda
Darth Plagueis
Darth Caedus
Darth Venamis
Tulak Hord
Revan
Darth Maul
Darth Vader
Galen Marek
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Darth Malgus
Darth Tyranus
The Force:
Luke Skywalker
Darth Sidious
Valkorion
Yoda
Darth Plagueis
Darth Caedus
Darth Nihilus
Revan
Dark Apprentice / Starkiller
Darth Krayt
Darth Tenebrous / Darth Venamis
Darth Vader
Galen Marek
Exar Kun
Cade Skywalker