Originally posted by Nephthys
I have a game. Say something that these guys said that you actually agreed with and thought was a good point. Has to be non-trivial.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'd say Tholme dances circles around Zannah and stabs her in the back before she knows what the hell is going on
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Originally posted by chingchangwalla
He was grimacing :/ Yoda didn't look overly distressed until Sidious' force power was on show
Originally posted by Nephthys
I have a game. Say something that these guys said that you actually agreed with and thought was a good point. Has to be non-trivial.
So I just went through numerous videos in which I thought the outcome would be obvious or at least well examined. Jensaarai has Jerec "crushing" Traya in the Force, Galen Marek being "beaten so badly it's anticlimactic" vs Dooku. I finally found something I agree with when he said Vader wouldn't ever lose to Plo Koon. Sad that it takes something that abundantly obvious....
Originally posted by McP
Btw, Hoth>Bane might not be a stupid idea, since Hoth is just unknown.
And even so, Hoth is confirmed to be a less skilled duelist than Raskta (the greatest duelist in the Jedi Order) and Kas'im (the greatest duelist in the Galaxy at the time of his death) and Bane held an edge against both of them in lightsaber combat during their duels at a few points.
Originally posted by Sinious
lool is this real?
No.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
That Palpatine has no skill as a swordsman.
Except that they never said that. EVER.
If you actually paid attention to the video they repeatedly acknowledge that Palpatine is highly skilled. They do deride him a few times yes, but those are clearly in jest. They were simply pointing out that Palpatine is NOT unbeatable and is not the greatest duellist ever as so many claim.
I will admit that Jen and Evan do sometimes say dubious stuff, but most of the time people here grossly exaggerate what they said to make them look far worse than they really are.
Originally posted by Zenwolf
You could say that about every duel can you not? Speed is apart of dueling.
Give the Flash a sword and pit him against Duncan MacLeod. Flash will easily win because of his super-speed. Does that mean the Flash is an amazing swordsman? Of course not! Just being really fast does not mean you are a great duellist. What makes you a great duellist is HOW you win, i.e. by being more skilled/having better tactics than the opponent.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
And even so, Hoth is confirmed to be a less skilled duelist than Raskta (the greatest duelist in the Jedi Order) and Kas'im (the greatest duelist in the Galaxy at the time of his death) and Bane held an edge against both of them in lightsaber combat during their duels at a few points.
Not really. Bane "held an edge" against Kas'im because he'd spent months memorising his every move. Likewise he "held an edge" against Raskta because of his orbalisks making his limbs and torso lightsabre-proof. Without orbalisks and against a foe he has no familiarity with he wouldn't be nearly as good.
Originally posted by McP
Btw, Hoth>Bane might not be a stupid idea, since Hoth is just unknown.
Saying an unknown is better than a high quality known like Bane is stupid. Especially when the video doesn't acknowledge that Hoth's an unknown and Evan/Jen argued that based on the miniscule amount of info on Hoth that he's better than Bane with massive amounts of speculation and reaching.
Originally posted by chilled monkeyExcept that they never said that. EVER.
If you actually paid attention to the video they repeatedly acknowledge that Palpatine is highly skilled. They do deride him a few times yes, but those are clearly in jest. They were simply pointing out that Palpatine is NOT unbeatable and is not the greatest duellist ever as so many claim.
I will admit that Jen and Evan do sometimes say dubious stuff, but most of the time people here grossly exaggerate what they said to make them look far worse than they really are.
Oh they did. Pointing out how Sidious was just waving his swords about against Maul like someone who doesn't know what they're doing.
And that the only reason he still wins most fights is because of his HUGE force advantage.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh they did. Pointing out how Sidious was just waving his swords about against Maul like someone who doesn't know what they're doing.
That is fact. Watch that fight and you can see for yourself that a lot of the time Palpatine is just flailing around like a moron. You'd never see Blade or Duncan MacLeod doing that.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
And that the only reason he still wins most fights is because of his HUGE force advantage.
That is also correct.
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Wtf has Plo Koon done to put on par with Kenobi?
He whooped Asajj, including disarming her, while one of his arms was busted.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I heard that that Koon vs Ventress feat was overblown and more of a draw.
Getting a draw while he had a busted arm is a MAJOR achievement. Imagine how he'd fare in tip-top condition.
Originally posted by McP
- Yoda is poor duelist
If you actually checked your facts, Jen has admitted he was wrong about that. He has since given Yoda a ton of respect.
Originally posted by McP
- Palpatine is poor duelist
See above
Originally posted by Nephthys
Evan/Jen argued that based on the miniscule amount of info on Hoth that he's better than Bane with massive amounts of speculation and reaching.
Nothing wrong with using imagination and creativity. It's more fun that way.