Darth Vader: When is he allowed to struggle?

Started by FreshestSlice4 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Can + not means the opposite than can does. Are you serious? So according to you can means can plus not. Can not also doesn't mean the same thing as did not.

I like how you're struggling to get out of the corner you've backed yourself into. I have no idea how DP has so many issues with a sub-carthage level troll.

Re: Darth Vader: When is he allowed to struggle?

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
When is Vader allowed to be challenged? When is he allowed to struggle against Force Users?

Weird question. But i ask this because Canon has treated Vader with the upmost respect, which is fine and rad. But him casually dominating everyone is great, a sight to be seen, but what sort of advantages, circumstances and such most be involved in order for Force Users to give Vader a run for his money?

Those cyborgs were a good opportunity; someone who has the ability to affect his cybernetics ala an Skotia.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I like how you're struggling to get out of the corner you've backed yourself into. I have no idea how DP has so many issues with a sub-carthage level troll.
You said said can not means the same thing as can. I see why you don't normally debate and try to insult instead. You're really, really, really, really bad at it.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Darth Vader is just another boring mary sue in the making. Disney will ruin Star Wars.

Lol a Mary Sue? Anakin/Darth Vader is arguably the greatest, most complex character created in the SW universe

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Darth Vader is just another boring mary sue in the making. Disney will ruin Star Wars.

Hm?

Problem is, whenever he struggles, people sometimes write him as being terrible because these Jedi he fights are 'nothing' compared to....the actual characters we know.

It doesn't help that Vader is in an era where he isn't surrounded by a ton of Force Users, compared to every other era(mostly) and said Force Users aren't as well known.

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Not even a restaurant. Just a snack lodge. I should have bought the Bart attack.

Personally, Darth Vader is what these "enforcer" types should have been, Sion(ik ik top kek), Malak, Kun, Malgus, Maul, Grievous, etc.

Like Sas said, the androids could have been interesting what with their ****ing interesting tech. General Karbin...eh...less so but whatever. I think one way he would struggle is through fighting an already established character(Ahsoka) or perhaps having some circumstance **** him up(TFU2 comes to mind)

But other than that, idk if some nobody could challenge him.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Darth Vader is just another boring mary sue in the making. Disney will ruin Star Wars.
Cringe.

Not to defend Legend or anything, but I don't think he's saying that Vader is a mary sue, but that he's becoming one. He's being treated like the ultimate badass atm.

Well there's not really many characters yet, as far as big villains go in the OT era. There's all of 3/4(4 if you count Sidious) that are actually doing stuff.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not to defend Legend or anything, but I don't think he's saying that Vader is a mary sue, but that he's becoming one. He's being treated like the ultimate badass atm.

??? That's what he was always intended to be. In the movies he was this evil, intimidating, unstoppable enforcer on the surface before Luke peeled back his layers (physically and metaphorically) revealing the sick, sad man we now know was underneath. But these stories feature him before that, when he was really a frightening adversary the Rebels had no idea how to face. The ultimate hero turned villain.

Besides, we all know the real reason LeGenD is pissed is because he wants Disney to create the Ancient Sith as powerful badasses, but can't do that if Vader is remotely close to Sidious, something LeGenD has brought up in several threads since Vader Down.

Hm Fresh? Why wouldn't they be able to create the AS as powerful if Vader is close to Sidious?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not to defend Legend or anything, but I don't think he's saying that Vader is a mary sue, but that he's becoming one. He's being treated like the ultimate badass atm.
That's because he is, dear. That doesn't make him a Mary Sue, that makes him the main antagonist.

Regardless this is laughable, you b1tch and moan that they are ruining the villain when he gets beaten, but when he doesn't he's a Mary Sue? Make up your ****ing mind lmao.

Why are you asking me when I said this was LeGenD's reasoning?

Making Vader the Ultimate Bad Ass is one of the things Disney has done right actually.

And I think Legends might need to look up what being a Mary Sue means. Because Vader doesn't fit that even if we ignore his gender.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Why are you asking me when I said this was LeGenD's reasoning?

/Shrug

Figured he would have said something or whatever.