Darth Vader: When is he allowed to struggle?

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Whether or not Vader was meant to be "badass" isn't really open to interpretation.

Sure, in ANH, you have him being bossed around by Tarkin and sassed by Motti... but it's he, not Tarkin, who is consistently challenging and threatening the heroes {he predicts that Leia won't give up the location of the rebel base, he convinces Tarkin to put a homing beacon on the Falcon, and he nearly thwarts the raid on the Death Star while Tarkin postures}. And he shuts Motti up real quick.

ESB, which is considered the best and most definitive of all the Star Wars films, has Vader radiating badassery from start to finish.

From then on, he's been the definitive sci-fi icon of badass villainy. It's there from the beginning.

You'll have to excuse my English homeboy: Neph hates anything that doesn't glorify Bane or SWTOR. You'll notice the schadenfreude with Maul, Vader, Dooku, etc. but he salivates whenever Bane or a SWTOR baddie does something badass.

'Strap was spot-on about the source of LeGenD's anger towards Vader. Neph's right there too. It's a deep-rooted bitterness over the fact that Vader will go down as a cultural icon whereas, in 10 years, no one will remember Vitiate. 😬

Originally posted by The_Tempest
'Strap was spot-on about the source of LeGenD's anger towards Vader. Neph's right there too. It's a deep-rooted bitterness over the fact that Vader will go down as a cultural icon whereas, in 10 years, no one will remember Vitiate. 😬

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
And four times the character. 👆
Quit being crazy. Vader sucks unless you like momma's boys who cry all the time and pout.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
But then I don't know what "AtLA" is so... 🙂

this conversation is over you disgust me

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Whether or not Vader was meant to be "badass" isn't really open to interpretation.

Sure, in ANH, you have him being bossed around by Tarkin and sassed by Motti... but it's he, not Tarkin, who is consistently challenging and threatening the heroes {he predicts that Leia won't give up the location of the rebel base, he convinces Tarkin to put a homing beacon on the Falcon, and he nearly thwarts the raid on the Death Star while Tarkin postures}. And he shuts Motti up real quick.

ESB, which is considered the best and most definitive of all the Star Wars films, has Vader radiating badassery from start to finish.

From then on, he's been the definitive sci-fi icon of badass villainy. It's there from the beginning.

You'll have to excuse my English homeboy: Neph hates anything that doesn't glorify Bane or SWTOR. You'll notice the schadenfreude with Maul, Vader, Dooku, etc. but he salivates whenever Bane or a SWTOR baddie does something badass.

'Strap was spot-on about the source of LeGenD's anger towards Vader. Neph's right there too. It's a deep-rooted bitterness over the fact that Vader will go down as a cultural icon whereas, in 10 years, no one will remember Vitiate. 😬

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It's not as if Vitiate has any character to like, anyway.

Valkorion's a different story, but indeed, he'll never be anywhere near the cultural icon that Vader is.

The entire concept of a Star Wars god emperor other than Sheev is lame af but IF they were going to do it, Valky was the way to go from day 1. But there are too many other, richer alternative paths.

But yeah, no SWTOR character amounts to anything in comparison, honestly.

Valkorion would've been better if he wasn't just another of Vitiate's masks. Some sort of distant, third-party observer would've been great.