Is Valkoriate pathetic?

Straightforward. I've maintained that what the character achieved relative to the time studied, the resources at his disposal, and the fact that he consumed the essence of thousands of Sith Lords... Makes him exceptionally lackluster compared with other characters.

What do you think? Is he impressive or pathetic?

No.

Pretty pathetic given the resources at his disposal, yes.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No.

Persuasive.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Pretty pathetic given the resources at his disposal, yes.

Agreed.

Why does this make him lackluster though?

Look at what other characters accomplished in a fraction of the time and without 8000 Sith Lords. Like Sheev. Or Krayt.

As a character or a powerhouse?

Powerhouse. I think it's been established that he's not much of a character.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Look at what other characters accomplished in a fraction of the time and without 8000 Sith Lords. Like Sheev. Or Krayt.

TBF Valkorion spent a lot of time ****ing around on Zakuul.

Originally posted by Nephthys
TBF Valkorion spent a lot of time ****ing around on Zakuul.

Krayt and Sheev had busy schedules too.

So immortality? Or just general accomplishments?

Poorly written, definitely.
Couldn't he just mind dominate Satele, the Jedi Council, and the Republic leaders?
Why is there a war going on in the first place?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
So immortality? Or just general accomplishments?

All the above.

Ah. Although my memory is a little blank, so can't really judge.

Tbh he seems to have achieved immorality and an entire empire worshipping him and serving his will. He praises himself for having "the patience of stone and will of stars". He didn't spend decades same as a character in their 30s, 40s etc. with the worry of limited time and resource. So, saying that he sucks cause he gets overshadowed by characters like Sheev in time efficiency is kinda unjust since Palpatine isn't written as an immortal character (especially since he is originally a movie character), who at the same time is arguably the smartest and the most successful character in the lore.

Can't disagree that Vitiate's a ripoff and his story is ridiculous compared to what we see. I enjoy his dialogue though.

Valkorions children are overall pretty ok.

Sidious' son was a grotesque mutant who had 3 eyes and was named Triclops.

I think we know who's more pathetic.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Valkorions children are overall pretty ok.

Sidious' son was a grotesque mutant who had 3 eyes and was named Triclops.

I think we know who's more pathetic.

There was no confirmation that Triclops was the son of Palpatine IIRC, that was just a rumor. The source where it says he is, doesn't confirm it either, just more rumors really.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Look at what other characters accomplished in a fraction of the time and without 8000 Sith Lords. Like Sheev. Or Krayt.

What does this even mean? His "8000 sith lords" accomplishment was made to do one thing, and that's render him immortal... Nothing else. Immortal and super powerful.

Also building one empire from scratch, then building a second one from scratch, are amazing accomplishments.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
His "8000 sith lords" accomplishment was made to do one thing, and that's render him immortal... Nothing else. Immortal and super powerful.

Guess you can scratch out "nothing else", lol.

Or add it to the end of the sentence? Lol