Sam Witwer on Darth Maul vs Darth Vader; Maul's status among Force-users

Started by Darth Thor3 pages

Tbh I think even in Legends Vader > Maul.

There was just that one outdated fight with the Maul doppelgänger which suggested otherwise. And even in that one, it was pretty much a Saber only fight. Vader never once even Force pushed Maul.

Maul is confirmed better than Ahsoka?

It's implied in the episode, and elaborated upon in the episode guide.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Vader's seemingly ability to trounce Maul and decisively overcome Ahsoka, both top-tier duelists, should give you an impression of how capable a combatant Vader is. He's evidently leaps and bounds above your average Jedi Council member, and a league above the likes of Dooku and perhaps even Windu.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Of course lightsaber skill is important in a fight...
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You are arguing with Vader sycophants who shut down parts of their brains years ago when it comes to the character.

Quan: if this next season, by some chance, Vader and Maul were to fight, would you accept the outcome and its implications if Vader beat him?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Quan: if this next season, by some chance, Vader and Maul were to fight, would you accept the outcome and its implications if Vader beat him?
I never deny the facts or the context. If you research my posting history this will confirm my statements to be true. That being said I am confident in my position.

Did you accept Vader beating Sidious in Rotj with one hand alone ?

I accept that Vader killed the Emperor and died in the process, sure.

Wasn't a fight, though.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Quan: if this next season, by some chance, Vader and Maul were to fight, would you accept the outcome and its implications if Vader beat him?

Nah he would come out with some trash like "He beat Old Maul, but Prime Maul would push his shit in"

Even though he's always argued Machine Vader is a slow machine man.

His Trolling will continue regardless of outcomes and creator statements.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
I accept that Vader killed the Emperor and died in the process, sure.

Wasn't a fight, though.

Vader killed him first without a weapon and after he lost a duel badly to Luke. That's a tough pill to swallow.

I know because Palpatine despite his force knowledge and power couldn't even mount a real offensive because he was tossed to his death. He was victimized by a one handed cyborg. Tragic way to die.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nah he would come out with some trash like "He beat Old Maul, but Prime Maul would push his shit in"

Even though he's always argued Machine Vader is a slow machine man.

His Trolling will continue regardless of outcomes and creator statements.

Machine Vader isn't as maneuverable as rots Anakin. That's a fact you fool.

Maul isn't in his physical prime just as Kenobi wasn't in his physical prime in ANH.

You bragged about how above Vader is to Tano and what happened after these two clashed.

Source material>>>opinions.

Interesting that both of the situations you mentioned involved a Sith Lord getting attacked from behind while they were focusing their powers on someone else.

Meanwhile, Maul's gotten thrown off cliffs by two Padawans in one-on-one engagements where Maul had the advantage. I.e one of them was blind, and the other was disarmed and hugging a ledge. 😂

Yeah as far as embarrassing defeats are concerned, Maul can hardly talk.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Interesting that both of the situations you mentioned involved a Sith Lord getting attacked from behind while they were focusing their powers on someone else.

Meanwhile, Maul's gotten thrown off cliffs by two Padawans in one-on-one engagements where Maul had the advantage. I.e one of them was blind, and the other was disarmed and hugging a ledge. 😂

Vader has precog and turned around. If he is at his best it isn't that impressive.

He fell off a cliff as he was overconfident. He wasn't injured at all. You also ignore Maul blind in gand was going to kill him when Tano blocked the kill strike. Context. Quit highlighting one aspect while completely ignoring the other.

Maul is overconfident and has Kenobi bested skill wise. Better than being beaten the **** down by Luke or Kenobi letting Vader strike him down in ANH. Earn that shit, Vader.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah as far as embarrassing defeats are concerned, Maul can hardly talk.
He can talk since he's survived both. Anakin and his embarrassing defeats is legendary. Dooku twice, Kenobi (crying and pouting as he burns), force pushed into defeat by Kanan and Ezra, force choked along with Kenobi against paltry Ventress, and Luke just going ham on him in ROTJ.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Interesting that both of the situations you mentioned involved a Sith Lord getting attacked from behind while they were focusing their powers on someone else.

Meanwhile, Maul's gotten thrown off cliffs by two Padawans in one-on-one engagements where Maul had the advantage. I.e one of them was blind, and the other was disarmed and hugging a ledge. 😂

😂

He's got you there, quan.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Quan: if this next season, by some chance, Vader and Maul were to fight, would you accept the outcome and its implications if Vader beat him?

When Vader won, he would just claim Maul was out of his prime and that his TCW incarnation would have beaten him. 😉

Originally posted by The_Tempest
😂

He's got you there, quan.

The best part is it was feeble old Palpy who pushed Maul's shit in, so will Vader even need his arms to beat Maul?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
The best part is it was feeble old Palpy who pushed Maul's shit in, so will Vader even need his arms to beat Maul?

mmm

True.

Originally posted by Trocity
When Vader won, he would just claim Maul was out of his prime and that his TCW incarnation would have beaten him. 😉

But he claims Vader is out of his prime as well, because he's a slow machine man now. So it's the same thing, so he has no valid excuse. He's just butt hurt.

So whether they're both in their Prime or both out of it, whether it's TCW or its Rebels, doesn't matter, because Anakin/Vader is > Maul regardless.