Deadshot vs Winter Soldier...

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're so beyond clueless on this subject it's actually gross. Please go to Sherdog or any number of MMA sites, and please PLEASE post this line on there...

In the same way that efficient fighting, especially when fighting for your life, shouldn't require thought. You try to do some active thinking in the middle of the fight instead of just reacting and you're gonna get your ass kicked.

I'm promise you they'll laugh you off the site. Please post that, and see what comes after. The people that aren't thinking during fights are actually the ones getting their asses kicked. The fact is, your process IS actively processing information. That is what you don't get. No matter what side of the argument you're trying to take, you still lose

1. Your brain DEDUCES what a punch is. That is how you know a punch is a punch is from your brain. Your eyes see the punch, determine it's a punch, where it coming from, and you react. THAT IS YOUR BRAIN ACTIVELY THINKING and PROCESSING INFO. Which means you lose the argument as you claimed your brain isn't actively thinking and processing info

2. Your brain is actively processing further more in depth thinking. Strategy, what your foe is trying to do, his strength level or any of the 100's of things actively running through your mind during a fight. AGAIN, YOU LOSE THE ARGUMENT.

There isn't a single way you win this argument. Your brain is indeed actively processing info every second of a fight. Period. how intricate that is, depends on the circumstances, but it's still always thinking. I accept your concession on all matters.

Your brain is actively processing info throughout the fight: Agreed.
You are actively thinking throughout the fight: Completely incorrect.

How bout you take your own advise and post stuff on Sherdog. Tell them that you think about every little move you make in the middle of a fight. Tell them you analyze each and every punch and what angle it's coming and what your options are. Watch all of them laugh at you the same way all of us here are laughing at you.

Stop basing your fighting opinions on what you see on anime. An actual fight is messy and it's chaotic. Try it sometime, even just an aggressive sparring session, you'll understand what we've been telling you.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Your brain is actively processing info throughout the fight: Agreed.
You are actively thinking throughout the fight: Completely incorrect.

How bout you take your own advise and post stuff on Sherdog. Tell them that you think about every little move you make in the middle of a fight. Tell them you analyze each and every punch and what angle it's coming and what your options are. Watch all of them laugh at you the same way all of us here are laughing at you.

Stop basing your fighting opinions on what you see on anime. An actual fight is messy and it's chaotic. Try it sometime, even just an aggressive sparring session, you'll understand what we've been telling you.

There isn't a single thing you have more fighting experience than me in. Not a single thing. Please don't tell me to try and do stuff I have loads more experience than you in. As I stated very clearly, how intricate your mind is thinking depends on circumstances. Never said otherwise. However, your brain is actively thinking regardless, and you said otherwise. Thus you lose the argument. Which is my entire point. Even if it's not intricate thinking for most of the fight, being able to process info better and quicker will ALWAYS aid you in a fight. Period. That Is exactly what Ozy has going for him. His brain does indeed process information faster and better, and that will always be of benefit.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There isn't a single thing you have more fighting experience than me in. Not a single thing. Please don't tell me to try and do stuff I have loads more experience than you in. As I stated very clearly, how intricate your mind is thinking depends on circumstances. Never said otherwise. However, your brain is actively thinking regardless, and you said otherwise. Thus you lose the argument. Which is my entire point. Even if it's not intricate thinking for most of the fight, being able to process info better and quicker will ALWAYS aid you in a fight. Period. That Is exactly what Ozy has going for him. His brain does indeed process information faster and better, and that will always be of benefit.

So if you don't think there is any intricate thinking involved, why then do you think genius intellect will help in a fight? Genius intellect will only come into play when there's plenty of intricate and complex thinking involved. Genius intellect means your brain is better able to analyze and comprehend complex problems. It doesn't mean that your brain receives electric impulses faster than the average person.

And with that said, you still have zero proof that Ozy's brain processes fighting information/stimuli faster than the average person. Heck, you have zero proof of Ozy fighting smart. You have proof of him winning, that doesn't imply he was fighting smart.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You have zero clue what's going on there. Zero. Read more, and come back to the conversation kiddo.

Reading is your problem you mongoloid, go to a gym and train for a day, and get back to me.

I could have sworn this thread was titled Deadshot vs Winter Soldier...

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Originally posted by FrothByte
So if you don't think there is any intricate thinking involved, why then do you think genius intellect will help in a fight? Genius intellect will only come into play when there's plenty of intricate and complex thinking involved. Genius intellect means your brain is better able to analyze and comprehend complex problems. It doesn't mean that your brain receives electric impulses faster than the average person.

And with that said, you still have zero proof that Ozy's brain processes fighting information/stimuli faster than the average person. Heck, you have zero proof of Ozy fighting smart. You have proof of him winning, that doesn't imply he was fighting smart.

I didn't say anything about there not being intricate thinking involved in fights. I've said the exact opposite throughout. I've said there IS during fights, what I said is, the amount of it various on circumstances. There hasn't been one fight I was ever involved in, whether in boxing or a street fight, where I wasn't having intricate thoughts during the fight. Not at all times, and depending on circumstances some more than others. However, they always occurred. Even the most frantic, frenzied fights I've ever been in, you have tons of stuff running through your mind at times. It just happens. Period.

So yes, it will undoubtedly help Ozy being that he can process information faster and better than any normal human. Of course we have proof of this. We know Ozy is a super genius, beyond any other human in that universe. He is supposed to be the pinnacle of human physical evolution and training. That is exactly what he is. Anybody, who's a super genius can process information better and faster than a normal one. That is by proxy. Thus, all I need to do is prove he's a super genius, and that means he unquestionably does process stuff faster and better. however, there is more....

We see in the novels AND in the movie he's actively watching like 30 TV screens all at once. He's ACTIVELY PROCESSSING all that he's seeing on the multiple screens. That was the WHOLE point of the scene to illustrate how fast he can process information. The novels even specifically note this. So yes, it's beyond clear he can and does process information quicker.

Further proof, the bullet catching scene. Being that your brain tells your arm to move and where.... Well, how does he not process information faster with quicker signals being sent, if he can move his arm to catch a bullet AFTER it was fired? The only way you could hope to accomplish such a feat, is if your eyes and brain processed the information fast enough, sent signal to move your arm into position... and obviously having quick arm movement to complete the task. All those must occur to pull off that feat.

game, set, match

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There hasn't been one fight I was ever involved in, whether in boxing or a street fight, where I wasn't having intricate thoughts during the fight. Not at all times, and depending on circumstances some more than others. However, they always occurred. Even the most frantic, frenzied fights I've ever been in, you have tons of stuff running through your mind at times. It just happens. Period.

Sorry dude, very hard for me to take you seriously when you say stuff like this. You sound like the stereotypical armchair warrior. I haven't been in that many fights, but I've been in enough to know that you don't know what it's like. And if you don't agree with that then that's fine, who knows I might even be wrong about you.

But LoM is right. This isn't the thread to talk about Ozy. We've derailed it enough as it is.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There hasn't been one fight I was ever involved in.

Fixed.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Reading is your problem you mongoloid, go to a gym and train for a day, and get back to me.

Concession accepted, you have zero clue what you're talking about. None. I've spent more time sparring in a ring, that you've spent even thinking of fighting, let alone fighting. I can tell by your complete utter lack of experience and knowledge on the matter that it's hopeless talking to you about.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Sorry dude, very hard for me to take you seriously when you say stuff like this. You sound like the stereotypical armchair warrior. I haven't been in that many fights, but I've been in enough to know that you don't know what it's like. And if you don't agree with that then that's fine, who knows I might even be wrong about you.

But LoM is right. This isn't the thread to talk about Ozy. We've derailed it enough as it is.

That's fine, and we don't need to derail it further. However, I do note your concession that Ozy has indeed displayed faster processing than any normal human.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Concession accepted, you have zero clue what you're talking about. None. I've spent more time sparring in a ring, that you've spent even thinking of fighting, let alone fighting. I can tell by your complete utter lack of experience and knowledge on the matter that it's hopeless talking to you about.

You're a joke. I'm not the one claiming to be deconstructing human locomotion mid fight. Go wipe the cheeto dust off your hands and try training, Neo. And no, your extensive background in Akido doesn't count.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
You're a joke. I'm not the one claiming to be deconstructing human locomotion mid fight. Go wipe the cheeto dust off your hands and try training, Neo. And no, your extensive background in Akido doesn't count.

Never said any such thing. Nice Red Herring noob

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Never said any such thing. Nice Red Herring noob

Sure you didn't. Go practice your crane kicks, karate kid.

Sure thing Noobie McNooberton

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Reading is your problem you mongoloid, go to a gym and train for a day, and get back to me.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Concession accepted, you have zero clue what you're talking about. None. I've spent more time sparring in a ring, that you've spent even thinking of fighting, let alone fighting. I can tell by your complete utter lack of experience and knowledge on the matter that it's hopeless talking to you about.