Luke Skywalker & Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Count Dooku & Arcann

In the Anakin and Kenobi vs Dooku fights, Kenobi has never posed a real threat honestly. Anakin was Dooku's main focus and Obi-Wan seems to be an afterthought

lmao

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
In the Anakin and Kenobi vs Dooku fights, Kenobi has never posed a real threat honestly. Anakin was Dooku's main focus and Obi-Wan seems to be an afterthought

In a team, they get taken by people like Savage Opress and Asajj Ventress, they don't lose, but its a struggle.

Yet when they're alone, they can outfence and outduel those same people and, not only that, embarrass those same people in a duel.

Taken down by a pissed off Savage who just force choked Ventress and Dooku together. Ventress pushes them hard whether they are together or not it makes little difference. Dooku has beaten Obi-Wan both alone and with company.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Taken down by a pissed off Savage who just force choked Ventress and Dooku together. Ventress pushes them hard whether they are together or not it makes little difference. Dooku has beaten Obi-Wan both alone and with company.

It doesn't mean he beats him every time, and yeah, he beat him... in AOTC, and he still had a hard time, and as I said, Kenobi almost killed him at one point.

And no, every time when Kenobi and Ventress fight alone, he embarrasses her

Also, later on, Kenobi was taking on Savage and Maul at the same time.

Yeah, as far as Savage ragdolling them goes, they were off-guard, Savage is nowhere near them in the force.

Yes, being off-guard does excuse getting ragdolled by inferior opponents, as you see Kanan and Ezra TK Vader when he's off-guard.

Curb stomping Ventress? No way. She contended with Anakin and Obi-Wan in sabers, showed better tactical ingenuity and used the environment better. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pzNbjhYANYQ

Curb stomping Ventress? No. Winning yes, but Ventress is horribly unrefined at this point and she still disarmed him.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7q2TNPxSxj0

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Curb stomping Ventress? No. Winning yes, but Ventress is horribly unrefined at this point and she still disarmed him.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7q2TNPxSxj0

He was winning without a saber, Kenobi was toying with her the entire time. 😬

Thanks for the evidence in Kenobi's favor.

Kenobi stomped Ventress in like 15 seconds in TCW movie.

The Kenobi vs Maul and Savage fight. Maul and Savage were at a clear disadvantage here, in a confined space, both using elaborate styles which require a large amount of room Pull off certain movesets. Kenobi was bloodlusted as well :/ it was honestly nothing special, it's cool to see him use two sabers but he ended up getting ragdolled by Maul anyway

Originally posted by Jmanghan
He was winning without a saber, Kenobi was toying with her the entire time. 😬

Thanks for the evidence in Kenobi's favor.

Ventress improved drastically throughout the clone wars... That was early TCW :/

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Maul and Savage were at a clear disadvantage here, in a confined space, both using elaborate styles which require a large amount of room Pull off certain movesets.

Lmao, 'cause Kenobi's Ataru doesn't.

And even if you reckon Obi-Wan smoked Ventress, he was still under slight stress. Late TCW Ventress got stomped by Dooku in an even more powerful way. He stripped her of her sabers and choked her out. Kenobi just had her on the back foot.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
The Kenobi vs Maul and Savage fight. Maul and Savage were at a clear disadvantage here, in a confined space, both using elaborate styles which require a large amount of room Pull off certain movesets. Kenobi was bloodlusted as well :/ it was honestly nothing special, it's cool to see him use two sabers but he ended up getting ragdolled by Maul anyway

Also, bloodlusted?...

Wtf...

😬

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Lmao, 'cause Kenobi's Ataru doesn't.

Gallia just died chief. He was pissed just look at his face. And lmao Soresu is perfect for small spaces, it's compact and far from elaborate. He was using Ataru anyway...

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Lmao, 'cause Kenobi's Ataru doesn't.

Much less so than Maul and Savage.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
I didn't know Kenobi knew Ataru, I thought he was Soresu only.

He mastered Ataru by TPM, and he used that in the duel against Maul and Savage.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
And even if you reckon Obi-Wan smoked Ventress, he was still under slight stress. Late TCW Ventress got stomped by Dooku in an even more powerful way. He stripped her of her sabers and choked her out. Kenobi just had her on the back foot.

"An even more powerful way".

English? Sure...

And Kenobi did the same thing to her...

When tf has Kenobi ever tried to choke anyone???...

What situation has Kenobi been in where he would need to choke Ventress?

He's not a sith, dude.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Gallia just died chief. He was pissed just look at his face. And lmao Soresu is perfect for small spaces, it's compact and far from elaborate. He was using Ataru anyway...