^ Yeah that is BS tbh. Once Anakin stopped holding back, he beat Dooku handily.
As for Gillard's BS Tiers, he said himself a fight between two 9's can go either way. Yet there was no "either way" about it with Yoda vs Dooku. Yoda was winning the Saber fight, and it was pretty one sided, according to both the Novel and the Script. Even the movie has Dooku fighting him for 30 seconds before he runs away.
SR's right that Dooku put up a much better fight against Yoda than Maul did against Sidious though. But even if we pretend for a second that Gillard's tier system is compatible with TCW series, Gillard himself says there's a HUGE jump between an 8 and a 9. So there's plenty of room for Dooku to fit in the middle somewhere, whilst not having reached the 9 level, but still being comfortably above the likes of Maul and Kenobi.
The entire fight was much longer. It took a long time for Anakin to build up to that point. It doesn't discount the fact that Dooku was able to handle Skywalker for a protracted period and was therefore not stomped. He was winning for much of the fight and even when they bladelock near the end it's Anakin whose saber is being noticeably pushed back towards his face.
Originally posted by NephthysActually, once they got Serious, Dooku started freaking out, Kenobi and Anakin were both an equal threat in the first half of the fight, and Dooku knew that.
The entire fight was much longer. It took a long time for Anakin to build up to that point. It doesn't discount the fact that Dooku was able to handle Skywalker for a protracted period and was therefore not stomped. He was winning for much of the fight and even when they bladelock near the end it's Anakin whose saber is being noticeably pushed back towards his face.
Evidence can be argued against or as invalid. Stovers version is out of date and contradicted. Dooku blocked both Anakin and Obi-Wan together with 1 hand. Was that before or after they "got serious"? Because it's immediately followed by Kenobi getting pushed aside until he rejoins and gets clowned.
And as I pointed out, Dooku was able to hold the advantage in a bladelock near the end of the fight.
Originally posted by NephthysWho cares, the point is that when Anakin stopped holding back Dooku got stomped, Dooku's ability to hold off Anakin when not performing at his peak is irrelevant.
The entire fight was much longer. It took a long time for Anakin to build up to that point. It doesn't discount the fact that Dooku was able to handle Skywalker for a protracted period and was therefore not stomped. He was winning for much of the fight and even when they bladelock near the end it's Anakin whose saber is being noticeably pushed back towards his face.
Originally posted by cs_zoltan
That's hardly evidence, that's just means one was holding back more than the other. Unless you have an exact percentage of course. Yoda also beat Dooku on a powerful DS nexus...
No, but I have a sizable gap, yeah.
Also, whilst Dooku was definitely amped on Vjun, I can't remember if Yoda was actually stated to be weakened. I know that generally, you would apply that logic, but in the same novel, I recall Whie being amped by Vjun.
Funny how you shift stance. I remember when you were strongly preaching how Mace was amped out of his mind when he fought Sidious, yet now you think he's Sidious tier without it just to wank Dooku further.
Mace was amped. I don't think Dooku would last very long against Sidious either.
Regardless, he holds his own against Yoda and is ranked as equal to Mace by Yoda. More definitive evidence than this denial logic you're using.
Anakin was pummeling Dooku's shit in while holding back 👆
He's not holding back in the traditional sense, and that only happens in one source. All other depictions of RotS have them as about equal. 👆
Anyhow you contradict yourself. You think Dooku vs Kenobi would be close yet you put Dooku on tier 9, which would mean he could stomp/handily beat two tier 8s...
Well, there are sources where Dooku knocks out a tier 8 effortlessly whilst fighting a tier 9.... 🙂