Deadshot vs. Captain America

Started by h1a837 pages

Originally posted by FrothByte
Basically what you're doing is greatly generalizing one example (shooting at someone's legs) while greatly emphasizing the other (shoot every bullet of many into the same hole yada yada).

If you want to compare without bias, make sure you apply the same amount of emphasis or generalization to each other. So it would look something like:

Is it harder to shoot at a stationary target or a moving target?
Harder to shoot the head or the legs?
Harder to shoot every bullet in the same hole with different guns although you are under no pressure at all and shooting at stationary targets? Or to shoot at a superhuman who's about to pound your face within 2 seconds if you don't shoot his legs while his zig zagging his way to you and carrying an indestructible shield with which he has blocked every bullet ever shot his way?

it would take Cap more than 3 seconds to reach DS if he ran straight forward. It would take more than 5 seconds if Cap zigzagged.

Three things.
Cap always charged gunmen, he never zigzagged against a single gunmen. This would go against his character.

Second, Cap zigzagging would make it EASIER to hit his legs. Why? Because his lateral (not forward) speed has to decrease and become 0 before changing directions.

Third, it's still 10000x harder to shoot every bullet from every gun into the same hole (without calibration) than it is to hit the legs of someone moving 0-40mph.

P.S. You know it would take Cap at least a second or two to reach full speed right? He would be traveling 0mph then 5 mph then 10 mph then 15 mph then 20 mph within 2 seconds. It's called acceleration. One must increase their speed continuously from 0 to reach a desired speed.

Originally posted by h1a8

Three things.
Cap always charged gunmen, he never zigzagged against a single gunmen. This would go against his character.

Deadshot never shot anyone in the leg, that would go against his character.

Originally posted by h1a8
it would take Cap more than 3 seconds to reach DS if he ran straight forward. It would take more than 5 seconds if Cap zigzagged.

Three things.
Cap always charged gunmen, he never zigzagged against a single gunmen. This would go against his character.

Second, Cap zigzagging would make it EASIER to hit his legs. Why? Because his lateral (not forward) speed has to decrease and become 0 before changing directions.

Third, it's still 10000x harder to shoot every bullet from every gun into the same hole (without calibration) than it is to hit the legs of someone moving 0-40mph.

P.S. You know it would take Cap at least a second or two to reach full speed right? He would be traveling 0mph then 5 mph then 10 mph then 15 mph then 20 mph within 2 seconds. It's called acceleration. One must increase their speed continuously from 0 to reach a desired speed.

Your own logic can easily be applied against you. Irony ftw.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Right, that 3 foot shield can grow to 6 feet when needed to cover his entire body. Oh wait....

That would be something 😆

Caps gets kneecapped
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Originally posted by Silent Master
Deadshot never shot anyone in the leg, that would go against his character.
He didn't need to. Their heads were exposed.

Originally posted by h1a8
He didn't need to. Their heads were exposed.

Same logic applies to Cap.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Same logic applies to Cap.
Not really. DS would be in a unique situation he never faced from the movie. Thus we can extrapolate. Cap will face the exact same scenario he faced in the movies (trying to charge a gunmen).

Originally posted by h1a8
Not really. DS would be in a unique situation he never faced from the movie. Thus we can extrapolate. Cap will face the exact same scenario he faced in the movies (trying to charge a gunmen).

When did Cap face someone trying to shoot his legs during a charge?

Originally posted by Silent Master
When did Cap face someone trying to shoot his legs during a charge?
DS will not go for Caps legs until he sees that's the only exposed area. Cap never covered his legs when charging a gunmen from a distance because he felt that the gunmen will not aim for them. If Cap chose to cover his legs then his head would be exposed (which is worst). So cap made a logical decision, "since I can't cover my whole body while charging forward then I have to choose which area to cover. Since My torso is more vital than my legs and it is harder to hit my legs than my torso then it's best to cover my torso and hope they don't aim for and shoot my legs as Spidey suggested."

Originally posted by h1a8
DS will not go for Caps legs until he sees that's the only exposed area. Cap never covered his legs when charging a gunmen from a distance because he felt that the gunmen will not aim for them. If Cap chose to cover his legs then his head would be exposed (which is worst). So cap made a logical decision, "since I can't cover my whole body while charging forward then I have to choose which area to cover. Since My torso is more vital than my legs and it is harder to hit my legs than my torso then it's best to cover my torso and hope they don't aim for and shoot my legs as Spidey suggested."

So Deadshot is the only one allowed to do things he has no feats for?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So Deadshot is the only one allowed to do things he has no feats for?
no. Cap can too, but within character.

Originally posted by h1a8
no. Cap can too, but within character.

Blocking bullets is within character.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Blocking bullets is within character.
Of course it is. But there is no evidence to support that Cap can know where DS is aiming at from that distance. Thus he will not be able to to block a leg shot if DS decides to aim there.

Originally posted by h1a8
it would take Cap more than 3 seconds to reach DS if he ran straight forward. It would take more than 5 seconds if Cap zigzagged.

Three things.
Cap always charged gunmen, he never zigzagged against a single gunmen. This would go against his character.

Second, Cap zigzagging would make it EASIER to hit his legs. Why? Because his lateral (not forward) speed has to decrease and become 0 before changing directions.

Third, it's still 10000x harder to shoot every bullet from every gun into the same hole (without calibration) than it is to hit the legs of someone moving 0-40mph.

P.S. You know it would take Cap at least a second or two to reach full speed right? He would be traveling 0mph then 5 mph then 10 mph then 15 mph then 20 mph within 2 seconds. It's called acceleration. One must increase their speed continuously from 0 to reach a desired speed.

So apparently Cap is only limited to things he has done on screen? In that case, DS won't shoot Cap in the legs because he's never shot anyone in the legs.

You need to make sure you apply the same standards to both combatants. Otherwise it shows just how biased you are.

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course it is. But there is no evidence to support that Cap can know where DS is aiming at from that distance. Thus he will not be able to to block a leg shot if DS decides to aim there.

Are you really claming that Cap has never blocked bullets from a distance?

Caps get kneecapped
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Deadshot has been stated to never miss.
Wherever cap is exposed is getting shot up 😆

Cap has plenty of bullet blocking feats.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Caps get kneecapped
/Thread

Deadshot has been stated to never miss.
Wherever cap is exposed is getting shot up 😆

Except he actually misses against Batman. On the other hand, Cap has never failed to block bullets with his shield.

You're right, he's failed to block Laser fire... he's failed at blocking stuff vastly slower than bullets i.e. punches. and?

Originally posted by h1a8
DS will not go for Caps legs until he sees that's the only exposed area. Cap never covered his legs when charging a gunmen from a distance because he felt that the gunmen will not aim for them. If Cap chose to cover his legs then his head would be exposed (which is worst). So cap made a logical decision, "since I can't cover my whole body while charging forward then I have to choose which area to cover. Since My torso is more vital than my legs and it is harder to hit my legs than my torso then it's best to cover my torso and hope they don't aim for and shoot my legs as Spidey suggested."
why didn't DS shoot the exposed flesh on batman ?