Deadshot vs. Captain America

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Incorrect, HE'S NOT SHOOTING at the shield you buffoon. So how impenetrable has ZERO significance here. What DOES have significance is that the shield can't cover his entire body while charging forward. THAT is the key here. Not that his shield will stop bullets LOL. Jesus, do you actually think you bring up good points? LOL So again, YES, bouncing a bullet of something and killing somebody in one shot IS harder, that seeing small opening on somebody charging you with a shield and hitting that opening.

Further, you avoided the question again... DO YOU THINK DS LACKS EXPERIENCE AT SHOOTING MOVING TARGETS.. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU LOGICALLY THINK HE'S ALSO NEVER TRIED TO DEVELOP?

Uhuh. And you think Cap will just allow DS to shoot at exposed bits? Despite the fact that Cap has numerous feats that show him blocking different portions of his body depending on where he was being shot at. He even has a few feats of blocking low shots. So unlike DS, Cap actually has feats to back him up.

ANSWER THE QUESTION:

DO YOU THINK DS LACKS EXPERIENCE AT SHOOTING MOVING TARGETS.. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU LOGICALLY THINK HE'S ALSO NEVER TRIED TO DEVELOP?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
ANSWER THE QUESTION:

DO YOU THINK DS LACKS EXPERIENCE AT SHOOTING MOVING TARGETS.. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU LOGICALLY THINK HE'S ALSO NEVER TRIED TO DEVELOP?

Nope, I don't think he lacks experience there. I do think he lacks the skill, at least as far as his feats show, to hit a moving target in the legs who's hidden behind a shield and is running towards you and will knock you out in less than 5 seconds.

Now if you feel I'm mistaken, go ahead and post a feat of DS to prove me wrong. Show me that he has made shots like that before.

I can post clips of Cap covering his legs when shot. What do you have for DS?

Dunno man, have a difficult time believing DS became one of the most lethal; if not the most lethal assassin in his realm and earned the moniker 'the man who never misses' by being poor or even average at hitting moving targets.

Imo, the downplaying should stop on both sides, it's counterproductive.

Originally posted by Robtard
Dunno man, have a difficult time believing DS became one of the most lethal; if not the most lethal assassin in his realm and earned the moniker 'the man who never misses' by being poor or even average at hitting moving targets.

Imo, the downplaying should stop on both sides, it's counterproductive.

Agreed on all accounts Big Rob. I will submit, that at times I do low ball Cap to compensate for the highballing of Cap that goes on here... I haven't really done much of that here. It's mostly the other side doing the lowballing. I've never questioned Cap's skill with his shield and even noted he could likely avoided some fire just by being badass. However, that doesn't change the core premise of the thread.

The other side says in order for Cap to win, he needs to close the distance.

By closing the distance, some of his body will be exposed

Since Cap isn't a bullet timer, and he'd have to be a multiple bullet timer as I've suggested DS would just burst fire in a coordinated pattern. So there will be openings

Their contention is that DS has no feats showings he can hit a moving target with a shield. Not only is that a crazy illogical theory to take, it breaks one of the logical fallacies. Absence of proof isn't proof.

That is what has been going on for pages now, they are honestly expecting people to believe DS is going to struggle hitting small openings.. wait for it... wait for it... because he doesn't have feats of doing so. It's crazy. So somebody is one of the best marksman we've seen, and he's going to struggle with aim because... the guy is moving and has a shield. It's ludicrous.

Originally posted by Robtard
Dunno man, have a difficult time believing DS became one of the most lethal; if not the most lethal assassin in his realm and earned the moniker 'the man who never misses' by being poor or even average at hitting moving targets.

Imo, the downplaying should stop on both sides, it's counterproductive.

You hurt me. I'm not downplaying him. I'm not saying DS can't hit a moving target. It's just that Cap will be protected mostly by his shield, whatever exposed parts will be small and he'll be moving - fast. Plus DS will only have a very short time to make that shot and it has to be a debilitating shot otherwise Cap just powers through it.

Now can DS make that shot? Maybe, but he doesn't have the feats to back it up.

Not my intention to hurt.

Err, Cap's shield is what, about three feet from top to bottom? That means there's easily half of his body he can't cover at any given time when he's running, I wouldn't call that a small exposed area. The only time we see him fully cover is when he turtles himself.

No, can't say I've seen DS shoot at a moving target that was 50% shielded. But I've seen him make impossible shots that lead me to believe he's just not going to miss in that scenario. Cap blocking sure, DS missing, nope.

Will agree that Cap while blocking means that DS might not get a kill shot or even a shot that will put Cap down.

I love this, there is no proof he can LMAO. Do you see what I'm dealing with here? The proof is he's one of the best marksman we've ever seen in cinema. The best in his universe. THAT IS the proof clownshoes. Just because the target is moving (something he's likely also very adept at) or with a shield doesn't all of a sudden make him a bad marksman unable to hit openings. WE ASSUME WHAT IS MORE PROBABLE, not what is LEAST LIKELY. Jesus. It's far more likely he'll hit those openings than miss. I love it though, he has no feats to back up he can LOL

Originally posted by Robtard
Not my intention to hurt.

Err, Cap's shield is what, about three feet from top to bottom? That means there's easily half of his body he can't cover at any given time when he's running, I wouldn't call that a small exposed area. The only time we see him fully cover is when he turtles himself.

No, can't say I've seen DS shoot at a moving target that was 50% shielded. But I've seen him make impossible shots that lead me to believe he's just not going to miss in that scenario. Cap blocking sure, DS missing, nope.

Will agree that Cap while blocking means that DS might not get a kill shot or even a shot that will put Cap down.

Not my intention to hurt LOL

Agreed. I also gave Cap a win just because he might power through a shot and get to him. More times than not though, multiple bullets are going to hit him, and he's going down imo

Cap wins. His feats, his bullet deflections, etc. are head and shoulders above some ******* they was put in prison by Batman.

Originally posted by Robtard

Will agree that Cap while blocking means that DS might not get a kill shot or even a shot that will put Cap down.

Ok I can accept that.

I'm of the opinion that anyone with a 3 foot shield running tilted forward will effectively cut the line of sight of the opponent so that only knees downwards will be visible. Even if the legs aren't completely covered, it's the line of sight (and bullet trajectory) that will be covered.

But like I said, I can concede to your last sentence. Seems like a good, unbiased stance.

LMAO... While Big Rob was being diplomatic and correct in his response, he said nothing new here. We've been arguing for how many pages about hitting a moving target with a shield? Rob states what everybody has been stating that he has a hard time believing DS won't be able to hit these openings (Something we've been continually saying over and over) and NOW you go, well he'll likely hit them, but I'm not sure it will put him down. HAHAHA. Truly typical

Don't be jealous of my world renowned powers of persuasion

LMAO. It's true, your powers of persuasion are epic. Can you please pursued Quan to actually learn how to debate and make valid points? Yeah, I guess that's a bridge too far for even Rob.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LMAO... While Big Rob was being diplomatic and correct in his response, he said nothing new here. We've been arguing for how many pages about hitting a moving target with a shield? Rob states what everybody has been stating that he has a hard time believing DS won't be able to hit these openings (Something we've been continually saying over and over) and NOW you go, well he'll likely hit them, but I'm not sure it will put him down. HAHAHA. Truly typical

Maybe if you talked nicer and learned to condense your 10,000 words to a few concise sentences more people would be willing to compromise with you.

Let the healing begin

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LMAO. It's true, your powers of persuasion are epic. Can you please pursued Quan to actually learn how to debate and make valid points? Yeah, I guess that's a bridge too far for even Rob.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Maybe if you talked nicer and learned to condense your 10,000 words to a few concise sentences more people would be willing to compromise with you.

Right..... I'm sure that's why....

You'd also have to rein in your bias and tendency to insult people when they disagree.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LMAO. It's true, your powers of persuasion are epic. Can you please pursued Quan to actually learn how to debate and make valid points? Yeah, I guess that's a bridge too far for even Rob.