David Duke on Donald Trump

Dude no that is the thing, his name itself is poison. David Duke could say puppies and ice cream are awesome, but because it's coming out of David Duke's mouth it takes on a different connotation.

He could say cancer is bad, but nobody wants to hear "Well David Duke thinks cancer is shitty" since nobody wants to think about this racist a-hole.

He might make a good point, but the problem is even just saying "David Duke makes a good point" would be taken by the media as some kind of endorsement of EVERYTHING Duke believes, no matter what. Is it unfair and asinine? Yep, but that is the reality we have to live with.

I want to discuss his points.

Duke is certainly correct about the media trying to force him into a trap. It's like a bunch of 12 yr. olds writing their school newsletter.

But the points he makes about the Publican party and how he was shut out in debates AND primaries 25 years ago like they did with Trump speaks volumes.

Theyre liking Trump to Duke because they want to destroy the points theyre making.

Duke speaks out against the Fed Res and Jewish supremacy in America. Trump has not done this, but why they want to promote anyone against the financial establishments is apparently racist or something.

There are also former clansman on the supreme court such as Byrd, but apparently, prozionists and promigration people are okay? Sanders as a radical communist is good for America? Come on.

I don't see why this is such an issue. Hilldawg has the backing of such wonderful countries such as those that kill homosexuals and treat women with less then cattle and still have actual slaves in them.

So ....

Originally posted by Withsensibility
But the points he makes about the Publican party and how he was shut out in debates AND primaries 25 years ago like they did with Trump speaks volumes.

Theyre liking Trump to Duke because they want to destroy the points theyre making.

Duke speaks out against the Fed Res and Jewish supremacy in America. Trump has not done this, but why they want to promote anyone against the financial establishments is apparently racist or something.

There are also former clansman on the supreme court such as Byrd, but apparently, prozionists and promigration people are okay? Sanders as a radical communist is good for America? Come on.

I understand 100% what you are saying man, I'm just saying there really isn't anything we can do about it. If Trump goes out framing something like "I agree with David Duke on such and such" it's not going to end well because people have literally gone insane in this country. Words like racism have pretty much lost all meaning.

What I'm saying is David Duke might make some good points, but if Trump himself wants to get these points out there he can't frame them in a "Well David Duke says this" type of situation. Just agreeing with Duke on anything would be bad.

Think of it like a convicted child molester then going and trying to give some big speech about child safety.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah no. Legally? Men have no say whatsoever. That is the point I am making. You could be the greatest person ever, have billions of dollars, and the woman can STILL abort that baby. When that changes? You and I can talk about punishing men for going along with it.

See above. Men need new rights then. A woman can decide whether or not to end a life, a man cannot. It's up to her, SHE can kill it, but nobody else can. When that broke f*cking system is fixed yes we can decide about punishments, etc. I actually have no problem with abortion, my problem is females can rid themselves of all responsibility for a child, but men? Are kind of f*cked and have to go along with what the woman decides. So this is a weird topic to bring sexism up with. Abortions, the court system, custody, all works against men. At least in America.

Kind of shitty, right?

Your beliefs are all out of whack, man. You're preaching the exact same stuff that you rally against.

Whatever. I agree with the things Duke says.

Obama Sachs, not so much. I feel cheated just by thinking he was a better option than Clinton in 08.

Originally posted by Scribble
So because one gender is being discriminated against, that gives them a free pass to co-commit a crime and get away with it?

Your beliefs are all out of whack, man. You're preaching the exact same stuff that you rally against.

I never said that at all. What I said was we need to fix the system. If abortion became illegal and a man somehow forced a woman to do it? Yes, punish him.

You talk about things that are out whack, but you don't even really think about the shit you are saying. Let us say a man and a woman both agree to get the abortion and it's illegal. I don't even know how they would charge the man, not unless he flat out admitted he willingly was okay with it, but who wants to go to prison?

So if it was illegal then yes I would say there should be consequences for men if they can force you into it, but merely also agreeing with it? Eh, that is shady territory legally speaking. I suppose if you are in someones car and they get in and say they are going to go rob a liquor store and you don't decide to get out and you go along but you don't actually participate...is that a crime? I dunno, not a legal expert.

Originally posted by Withsensibility
Whatever. I agree with the things Duke says.

Obama Sachs, not so much. I feel cheated just by thinking he was a better option than Clinton in 08.

Like I said you can agree with some of the things Duke says, and I agree with him too when it comes to the way the media tries to manipulate things, I agree 100%.

I just think someone other than David Duke needs to be the one saying these things.

Good thing us men can still just knock a woman up and then run, then. Because if it becomes illegal, we'll be able to do it all we want, and the woman'll either have to have the kid on her own or be arrested for having an abortion. What a wonderful vision of a world.

Originally posted by Scribble
Good thing us men can still just knock a woman up and then run, then. Because if it becomes illegal, we'll be able to do it all we want, and the woman'll either have to have the kid on her own or be arrested for having an abortion. What a wonderful vision of a world.

Is it any better than now, where a woman can entrap a man? Send him to jail for not paying child support? Abort the child if she wants, even if the man wants to care for it?

You seem to be under the impression things are okie dokie just the way they are, but nope. Men get f*cked over in this country a lot when it comes to this kind of stuff. You can go look up cases of men being put in prison for not paying child support on children that aren't even theirs lol.

I'm agreeing with you dude, the system is f*cked up, but it's not f*cked up in a way that benefits men.

Originally posted by Surtur
Is it any better than now, where a woman can entrap a man? Send him to jail for not paying child support? Abort the child if she wants, even if the man wants to care for it?

You seem to be under the impression things are okie dokie just the way they are, but nope. Men get f*cked over in this country a lot when it comes to this kind of stuff. You can go look up cases of men being put in prison for not paying child support on children that aren't even theirs lol.

I'm agreeing with you dude, the system is f*cked up, but it's not f*cked up in a way that benefits men.

I was trying to look at things from a legal point man. It would be hard to criminally punish a man for giving his blessing on an abortion, you know?

If it were up to me abortion would be legal AND men would also be able to "abort" a child(in a certain way) via giving up all responsibility and rights to said child, just like a woman can do when she gets an actual abortion. Though I obviously think such a thing would need to be done before the child is born. I want both men and women to have an out, not just women. It's that whole "equality" thing, you know? I want it to actually exist.

You silly irresponsible Pot head you!

🙂

Originally posted by Surtur
I was trying to look at things from a legal point man. It would be hard to criminally punish a man for giving his blessing on an abortion, you know?

If it were up to me abortion would be legal AND men would also be able to "abort" a child(in a certain way) via giving up all responsibility and rights to said child, just like a woman can do when she gets an actual abortion. Though I obviously think such a thing would need to be done before the child is born. I want both men and women to have an out, not just women. It's that whole "equality" thing, you know? I want it to actually exist.

Anyway, we may as well leave it there, since we've strayed from the topic probably enough now. I am also generally pro-choice, even though I find the idea of abortion stomach churning, and agree that it should be an equal process both ways. How that could be enforced I don't know. I think people should just be taught more about the implications of safe sex and actually how serious it is having a kid from an earlier age. Minimising the need for abortions should be our goal, rather than punishment for those that do it. Etc., etc.

I mean if there was proof the guy assisted in the crime then yep punish him too.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
You actually believe he is? Aside from exaggeration on the left and an idiot slogan (love trumps hate), as well as amusing claims that the republicans are a party of bigots (despite hilary being the democrats' nominee as well as the wikileaks emails), what makes him a racist exactly?

Note: ******* does not mean racist.

Originally posted by Surtur
Just post a racist quote, be specific. He never said all mexicans are rapists and killers, so that is out. But hey perhaps you have some more stuff. Just list me some things.

True, he never said all mexicans were rapists, he just said some were. I don't consider that racism, tbh, so I wasn't referring to that.

Just check these out.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history

I see some discrimination which is typical for a politician, not so much racism if any.

Lol dude look at some of those examples though. I mean it's already outright bullshit when the very first claim of racism is that he dared to insult a gold star muslim family who showed up to talk shit to him at his rally.

Or hell look at the thing with the Mexican judge. He wasn't saying all Mexicans are bias, he was essentially saying that since he has been outspoken about Mexico and building a wall, etc. that the fact the judge is Mexican is letting that get to him and effect his decisions. I am not saying he is wrong or right in that, but do you see what I mean? Flimsy examples.

A lot of these examples come from years ago too. Am I saying it excuses it? No, but the people in the media seem to imply like Trump is out campaigning right now saying all kinds of racist shit.