David Duke on Donald Trump

Originally posted by Scribble
Good thing us men can still just knock a woman up and then run, then. Because if it becomes illegal, we'll be able to do it all we want, and the woman'll either have to have the kid on her own or be arrested for having an abortion. What a wonderful vision of a world.

The laws regarding abortion are quite complex, but it should be noted that there is an ever increasing abortion pandemic that should be discouraged. Its a very interesting topic, but not this topic.

I mean some of the examples of racism are his refusing to condemn people he has...condemned lol. I just ask how you expect someone to take these sources seriously when they spout bullshit?

Didn't people always get on T1 for posting shitty sources?

Some of the other gems:

-he treats racial groups as "monoliths" lol
-treats blacks as token members to dispel the idea he is racist

Oh shit he posted a picture of himself with a taco bowl saying he loves hispanics. flee!!!!!!!!!!!! Flee for your lives!!!

It's understandable if you think some of those examples aren't good enough, but at least a couple of them have to get you.

Besides, there's claims about him being a racist all the way back to the 70's. I mean, this isn't a coincidence.

Yes but if some of the claims are BS it makes you wonder if any are credible. It's the whole "takes only one apple to spoil the bunch" thing.

I mean he sure did say some dumb shit like "these indians don't look like real indians" and that is ignorant as f*ck, but do you think most of the people screaming he is racist are referring to these events? I do not.

For example, referring to afro-americans as 'the blacks' seems quite racist to me. And the taco bowl thing, well it's just like that guy says, the watermelon example. Or me as a mexican buying a cheeseburger and a diet coke and tweeting 'I love Americans!'. To me it seems like desperate attempts to prove he 'isn't a racist' to the world.

There are clearly a ton of racism claims against Trump, I seriously doubt not one or two of them are true.

I haven't seen one real instance of racism. I've seen several of discrimination and again, you can call any politician out on that.

So of all the examples provided, in your opinion, not one is racist?

Originally posted by Petrus
True, he never said all mexicans were rapists, he just said some were. I don't consider that racism, tbh, so I wasn't referring to that.

Just check these out.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history

Lydia oconnor and daniel marans are jewish btw.

PURE COINCIDENCE!

Originally posted by Petrus
For example, referring to afro-americans as 'the blacks' seems quite racist to me. And the taco bowl thing, well it's just like that guy says, the watermelon example. Or me as a mexican buying a cheeseburger and a diet coke and tweeting 'I love Americans!'. To me it seems like desperate attempts to prove he 'isn't a racist' to the world.

There are clearly a ton of racism claims against Trump, I seriously doubt not one or two of them are true.

If a Mexican guy did what you just said and someone got upset I'd probably kind of slap them lol. It is silly. What would I say..he is being racist against Americans? "American" isn't even a race.

Calling blacks..the blacks, I mean..what? You act like he called them n*ggers. What is the right word here? Some blacks seem comfortable with being called blacks, some do not. It's an ever changing puzzle on what is or is not okay.

Would calling white people "whites" be racist to you?

Originally posted by Surtur
If a Mexican guy did what you just said and someone got upset I'd probably kind of slap them lol. It is silly. What would I say..he is being racist against Americans? "American" isn't even a race.

Calling blacks..the blacks, I mean..what? You act like he called them n*ggers. What is the right word here? Some blacks seem comfortable with being called blacks, some do not. It's an ever changing puzzle on what is or is not okay.

Would calling white people "whites" be racist to you?

It's not about calling them 'blacks'. It's about calling them 'the blacks', as if they were a completely separate group of people. 'The' makes it discriminatory.

I know it's not, but you get the gist. And there's also the watermelon example. I didn't get upset over the taco bowl incident, but that doesn't mean it wasn't discriminatory. It's literally saying 'oh, you're hispanic. You must like tacos.'. He's stereotyping the shit out of 'hispanics'.

So "the" blacks. But a lot of times blacks talk bout *the* white community, etc. so is that racist or not?

Errr, French people like wine and garlic. Am i racist now?

Originally posted by Surtur
So "the" blacks. But a lot of times blacks talk bout *the* white community, etc. so is that racist or not?

It's honestly hard to explain myself over a computer, at least in this context. You can start a sentence like this: "The communities were growing."

You can start a sentence like this, too: "White people live in Europe."

You can't start a sentence like this: "The whites live in Europe."

At least to me, there's a difference.

Since the sources might be questionable for you, the question I must ask is this: if any of those racism claims against Trump were true, would you still not consider him a racist?

Originally posted by Withsensibility
Errr, French people like wine and garlic. Am i racist now?

That's a pretty dumb example. You're essentially saying you don't believe stereotyping is wrong.

Originally posted by Withsensibility
rape is illegal and knocking up a girl means the law decides your fate regarding how much you pay if she wants to keep it and you dont want to be with her for eg. In fact, you dont even get a say in this. If you consent to sex and she pokes a hole in the condom, not only do you not get a say on the abortion, it will have to be proven that she mislead you to get out of paying for it.

The laws regarding abortion are quite complex, but it should be noted that there is an ever increasing abortion pandemic that should be discouraged. Its a very interesting topic, but not this topic.

Originally posted by Surtur
Or hell look at the thing with the Mexican judge. He wasn't saying all Mexicans are bias, he was essentially saying that since he has been outspoken about Mexico and building a wall, etc. that the fact the judge is Mexican is letting that get to him and effect his decisions. I am not saying he is wrong or right in that, but do you see what I mean? Flimsy examples.

Originally posted by Petrus
That's a pretty dumb example. You're essentially saying you don't believe stereotyping is wrong.

Originally posted by Withsensibility
Why is that a bad example? I dont understand this stigma of stereotyping when its clearly a part of their culture. Is it because France is a European country?

You keep ignoring the examples provided. It's as equally offensive as films portraying mexicans as dudes riding horses in the desert, wearing sombreros. It's the same as eating watermelon and saying 'I love blacks', or something of the sort.

I'm not personally offended by it, but a lot of people are, and I can understand it.

Besides, taco bowls don't even exist in Mexico, lol. It's actually an American dish.

Originally posted by Petrus
You keep ignoring the examples provided. It's as equally offensive as films portraying mexicans as dudes riding horses in the desert, wearing sombreros. It's the same as eating watermelon and saying 'I love blacks', or something of the sort.

I'm not personally offended by it, but a lot of people are, and I can understand it.

Besides, taco bowls don't even exist in Mexico, lol. It's actually an American dish.

Mexicans in sunbreros on horses in a Western film might have something to do with the historical genocide and ressettlement associated with it. But Im not Mexican, or American, so I cant be definite. I do know the white people stole the cowboy western culture from the Mexicans, though. Kinda different.

Hes showing appreciation. Stop finding ways to get offended and put Mexico Us history into what Trump actually did.

Originally posted by Petrus
You keep ignoring the examples provided. It's as equally offensive as films portraying mexicans as dudes riding horses in the desert, wearing sombreros. It's the same as eating watermelon and saying 'I love blacks', or something of the sort.

I'm not personally offended by it, but a lot of people are, and I can understand it.

Besides, taco bowls don't even exist in Mexico, lol. It's actually an American dish.

So out of curiosity, the movie "White Men Can't Jump"..that is racist, right? I mean the title.

I'm not saying you specifically do this, but I just love how people complain about these stereotypes and yet when we see something like the "white people can't dance" stereotype nobody says a god damn word about it. But blacks and chicken or watermelon? Oh shit time to have a meltdown.

Yet you never see the black community complaining about the big dick stereotype. I'd like some consistency, either stereotyping is bad or it isn't.

Originally posted by Surtur
So out of curiosity, the movie "White Men Can't Jump"..that is racist, right? I mean the title is racist to you?