Originally posted by abhilegend
Barry stomps.
Yeah, tell that to Barry when he kicks the shit out of him.
Pre Crisis Barry cannot even breathe in outer space, lol, much less beat the freakin' Spectre. He was amped in their encounter with phantom powers. In the PC days anyone who's a ghost/phantom is in effect a universal power (much like the spectre). Hence why he was able to challenge the Spectre.
In fact, PC Barry was actually legitimately weaker than his post crisis self or Wally for that matter; he was beaten by his rogue gallery pretty regularly. And these include the likes of Captain Boomerang, or the Top, or Yorkin (all street level btw), hell, even regular normal thugs have tagged and beaten Barry physically but since this is a Pre-Crisis character we must give him the auto-win I guess.
And when did he run to the end of the universe in zero time btw? (I hope you're not referring to his encounter with Superman?). in his PC days he was always given the limit that he can travel 10 times the speed of light but broke that number on a number of occasions but that was still his average and limit most of the time.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
The rhetorical nature of this question is so funny. You wouldn't have made this thread if there was any evidence otherwise since the Buried alien scans would be on dropped the second someone (carver probably) said "runner"
Originally posted by operator616
He was amped in their encounter with phantom powers. In the PC days anyone who's a ghost/phantom is in effect a universal power (much like the spectre).
You had me at "phantom powers". This is why the PC days need to be brought back. I just wish at the end of every comic they listed the combination of drugs the writers wrote the comic on.
Originally posted by operator616
Pre Crisis Barry cannot even breathe in outer space, lol, much less beat the freakin' Spectre. He was amped in their encounter with phantom powers. In the PC days anyone who's a ghost/phantom is in effect a universal power (much like the spectre). Hence why he was able to challenge the Spectre.
Eh, what? He was turned ghostly by Ghost Ace but everything else was just him with the speed and striking power.
In fact, PC Barry was actually legitimately weaker than his post crisis self or Wally for that matter; he was beaten by his rogue gallery pretty regularly. And these include the likes of Captain Boomerang, or the Top, or Yorkin (all street level btw), hell, even regular normal thugs have tagged and beaten Barry physically but since this is a Pre-Crisis character we must give him the auto-win I guess.
Yeah and Runner got tripped over by Mantis. Wally has himself got beaten by these rogues and at one point couldn't dodge four boomerangs. Under Geoff Johns no less.
And I gave him the win because he was legitimately a feat monster. Him just containing the anti matter cannon of Anti Monitor shits on anything Runner has done.
Wally tried that and failed BTW.
And when did he run to the end of the universe in [B]zero time btw? (I hope you're not referring to his encounter with Superman?). in his PC days he was always given the limit that he can travel 10 times the speed of light but broke that number on a number of occasions but that was still his average and limit most of the time. [/B]
10 times the speed of light? Are you kidding me?