Supporting Common Sense Gun Control!

Originally posted by Petrus
It's not as easy as it sounds. It won't be easy for a 13 year-old boy to acquire a gun illegally, tbh.

Okay but a majority of these massacres aren't done by kids that young.

Originally posted by Petrus
Facilitating a 13 year-old with easy access to a rifle is as stupid as it gets. What a kid needs to do to massacre people is literally walk into a gun store and buy one. There's a reason school/bar/club massacres happen in the US so often.

Okay here is where you confuse me because..you are saying a 13 yr. old kid could just legally go into a gun store and purchase a gun?

Originally posted by Petrus
Facilitating a 13 year-old with easy access to a rifle is as stupid as it gets. What a kid needs to do to massacre people is literally walk into a gun store and buy one. There's a reason school/bar/club massacres happen in the US so often.

That depends on the 13 year old. Some you can trust and others will wind up voting Democrat.

But this goes back to the TYRANNY things.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay but a majority of these massacres aren't done by kids that young.

Maybe not, but many of them are teens on their 16s, 15s or 17s. And actually in some special cases, they've been 13.

Okay here is where you confuse me because..you are saying a 13 yr. old kid could just legally go into a gun store and purchase a gun?

Well, I was under the impression that it was possible.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/27/in-30-states-a-child-can-still-legally-own-a-rife-or-shotgun/

Unless this isn't true? Honest question.

From the article:

That doesn't mean that a child can walk into a gun show and purchase a gun. "There are federal laws for minimum age purchasing of firearms," said Daniel Webster, the director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research. "Technically, anybody selling a gun in that context should look for age verification that someone is at least 18 years old."

But a child's parent could. "If dad wants to give his son a rifle or a shotgun on his 13th or 14th birthday, he's pretty much free to do that in most states," Webster said."

Now with all that said I would be shocked if a gun seller has never looked the other way and sold to a young kid.

Originally posted by Petrus
Maybe not, but many of them are teens on their 16s, 15s or 17s. And actually in some special cases, they've been 13.

Well, I was under the impression that it was possible.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/27/in-30-states-a-child-can-still-legally-own-a-rife-or-shotgun/

Unless this isn't true? Honest question.

What? You Never got a Shotgun for your Birthday or Christmas?

Such a sad childhood.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Lord Lucien, what about bows? Bows have been used for hunting and war (for example the Battle of Agincourt: English Archers killed 5,000 French Knights) during the 100 years war. Maybe we should ban bows too! How bout slingshots too? The IRA used those to blind British troops during the 80s and The Troubles.

Try combining all those together and you get a description of a standard assault rifle. Standard. Unmodified. Contrast that civilian-owned, battlefield weapon to the civilian-owned battlefield weapon of an English longbow. There's a reason literally every soldier on Earth has traded in their bows and arrows. Try to guess why before you bring up this nonsense again in an atrocious attempt at reductio ad absurdum.

Originally posted by Withsensibility
The technology is not the issue. Its a constitutional right to defend against the tyrannical government. Whether its drones nuclear arms or muskets. Kinda like how BLM fight against the police. Do you get it now?

Poor argument.

"Look out boys, they're sending Abrams, LAVs, helicopters, artillery, fighter jets, stealth bombers, predator drones, aircraft carriers, battleships, f*cking lasers, and an array of satellite and computer technology up against us... but don't worry because I got a hunting rifle!"

Originally posted by Withsensibility
stop posting jewish links.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]What? You Never got a Shotgun for your Birthday or Christmas?

Such a sad childhood. [/B]

You'll shoot your eye(and probably the rest of your head) out.

Originally posted by Surtur
From the article:

[b]That doesn't mean that a child can walk into a gun show and purchase a gun. "There are federal laws for minimum age purchasing of firearms," said Daniel Webster, the director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research. "Technically, anybody selling a gun in that context should look for age verification that someone is at least 18 years old."

But a child's parent could. "If dad wants to give his son a rifle or a shotgun on his 13th or 14th birthday, he's pretty much free to do that in most states," Webster said."

Now with all that said I would be shocked if a gun seller has never looked the other way and sold to a young kid. [/B]

Check this out:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/06/17/watch-this-insane-video-of-a-13-year-old-buying-a-gun-in-seconds/

I will just let The Fonding Fathers answer pretty much everything that LL said.

*"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government". ~ George Washington

*"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not". ~ Thomas Jefferson

*"Those who trade liberty for security have neither." ~ Benjamin Franklin

*Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.

*An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

*Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.

*Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.

*You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.

*Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.

*You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

*Assault is a behavior, not a device.

*64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

*The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.

*The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.

*What part of '"shall not be infringed" do you NOT understand?

*Guns have only two enemies; rust and politicians.

*When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.

*The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

Originally posted by Surtur
You'll shoot your eye(and probably the rest of your head) out.

Nope. Unlike our LIBERAL LOONIE Buddies. I got LEARNT which end of the gun is the dangerous end. Its the end the finger is connected to.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]I will just let The Fonding Fathers answer pretty much everything that LL said.

*"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government". ~ George Washington

*"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not". ~ Thomas Jefferson

*"Those who trade liberty for security have neither." ~ Benjamin Franklin

*Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.

*An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

*Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.

*Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.

*You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.

*Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.

*You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

*Assault is a behavior, not a device.

*64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

*The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.

*The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.

*What part of '"shall not be infringed" do you NOT understand?

*Guns have only two enemies; rust and politicians.

*When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.

*The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

[/B]

Your Founding Fathers are men from a different time and era. With different political realities, different technological capabilities, and different social priorities. Those same men upheld slavery and the marginalization of women and non-WASPs. They started a revolution whose primary aim was to trade the rich, white, ruling elites from one country and replace them with the rich, white, ruling elites from their new one. And thousands of peasants and peasant-soldiers died to help them do it.

You would look at those values and social norms from those days and say they were a "product of their time". Why do you think that sentiment should exclude their acceptance on firearms? The post-Revolutionary period was a time when the notion that all men should carry weapons as self-defence made alot of sense. An armed militia made sense when the 2nd Amendment was drafted. The British colonies still existed. Britain was still hostile. Natives still raided settlements. Rebellions still happened--the 2nd Amendment (the whole Bill of Rights) was introduced in 1791, the same year the Whiskey Rebellion broke out. An armed populace and militia made sense.

We don't live in that world anymore. It no longer makes any practical sense.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The British Empire would never have happened with gun control. What's your point?

Your Founding Fathers are men from a different time and era. With different political realities, different technological capabilities, and different social priorities. Those same men upheld slavery and the marginalization of women and non-WASPs. They started a revolution whose primary aim was to trade the rich, white, ruling elites from one country and replace them with the rich, white, ruling elites from their new one. And thousands of peasants and peasant-soldiers died to help them do it.

You would look at those values and social norms from those days and say they were a "product of their time". Why do you think that sentiment should exclude their acceptance on firearms? The post-Revolutionary period was a time when the notion that all men should carry weapons as self-defence made alot of sense. An armed militia made sense when the 2nd Amendment was drafted. The British colonies still existed. Britain was still hostile. Natives still raided settlements. Rebellions still happened--the 2nd Amendment (the whole Bill of Rights) was introduced in 1791, the same year the Whiskey Rebellion broke out. An armed populace and militia made sense.

We don't live in that world anymore. It no longer makes any practical sense.

Things haven't changed that much. And pretty much nothing they said DOESN'T also apply to todays scenarios.

Like how our current LIBERAL Socialist Elitist Leaders have done their best to keep the American African Population ENSLAVED in the Ghettos and Tenements for the past 50 years.

But then using Your Logic. Defending ourselves and Standing up for our rights is wrong and we should always surrender to what is considered a Superior Force.

Which is pretty much what TYRANTS would prefer the people always do.

Jesus you're unpleasant. It's like talking to a brick wall that has platitudes and slogans graffitied all over it. They're eye-catching, but pretty worthless.

YouTube video

https://youtu.be/LORVfnFtcH0

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Jesus you're unpleasant. It's like talking to a brick wall that has platitudes and slogans graffitied all over it. They're eye-catching, but pretty worthless.

That's exactly how I felt watching the DNC. ZING!

Originally posted by Robtard
YouTube video

https://youtu.be/LORVfnFtcH0

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
That's exactly how I felt watching the DNC. ZING!

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Jesus you're unpleasant. It's like talking to a brick wall that has platitudes and slogans graffitied all over it. They're eye-catching, but pretty worthless.

Yeah. Don't it suck when people don't GIVE Up and just SURRENDER when faced with an opposing view point.

Wow. A WALL Can work to stop things!?

Again, worthless.

Figured I'd just post this up real quick:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

That's the entirety of the 2nd Amendment. The bold text is my emphasis to accompany what I said earlier.

I wish every gun owner would stop killing millions of Americans. Im sure theyre loving the NRA defending their right to kill people.