Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But the writers are the ones who...give us feats.
They're also the ones who says things that make no sense, and ignore what happens with stories. It's almost as if there's dozens of different writers with conflicting knowledge and opinions or something.
Otherwise, you may as well just rely on handbooks and stats.
Nope, they aren't reliable because you have got Mjolnir being Mach 32 and it's the same problem as I noted above.
The feats you have posted for Iron Fist....why can't we say the writers have no idea what they're writing about?
As that's arguing author intent. When discussing these things it's best to go with the death of the author. As the author is not infallible, and especially in this case where's there are dozens of them with conflicting knowledge and opinions.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Super skill is nothing new in comics.
It's not an explanation. It's an idiotic attempt at explaining something that has nothing to do with skill. As skill does not let you perform such massively superhuman feats.
Arcane nerve strikes, rolling with Class 100 punches, simulating super-speed, striking super-hard materials...
No, this just showcases how poorly writers understand what skill even is. Karate Kid? Going by everything he has done such as destroying meteorites, and stopping cities form being split by earthquakes?
That's superhuman, and any writer who argues otherwise doesn't know what skill is.
"New, more durable suit, Iron Man? No biggie, I trained a lot, my karate is even more formidable now." - Mandy
Which would make her superhuman because being better at karate does not allow one to do this. This is more along the lines of training so hard they become superhuman.
IF's abilities are largely skill-based, too. So there should be no trouble understanding Batman's capabilities.
What does the chi of Shou-Lao the Undying have to do with " pure skill?" What does mystical martial arts based on using chi is "pure skill?"
This is not something you achieve with "pure skill."
Originally posted by leonidas
planet busting? lol he doesn't have to bust planets to fight the way he does or the characters he does. galan already showed you bats dodging light-based attacks. he dodges lasers all the time....nothing to do with who he is fighting.
Yes, he does in order to even faze these characters. In a showing over another character named Green Lantern, and of which whose energy beams are hilarious inconsistent in terms of speed.
You have to prove that it's even moving this fast in this scene. Ignoring that it's coming from a showing over another character.
are you f****** kidding me? 😂 this from the guy who portrays himself as the final word regarding what is and isn't acceptable in the comic book world?? sigh....
Nope, I portray things outside of showings over characters as the final word on it.
and yet he performs similarly over and over, year after year, against characters WELL above his own power level. just last month (again, as shown by galan) he pulled a disappearing act on a superman level being--gotham. of course, he's done the same to superman himself:
It being consistent doesn't keep it from being consistently retarded. As I already noted Batman's power is that he is popular. The writers are going to favor him even when it doesn't make any sense.
make sense? of course not.
They really, really don't.
At all.
still viable forum feats? of course they are.
No, they're not. You have to prove Batman is actually capable of these things outside his showings over other characters.
and hell, those aren't even his best stealth feats:http://batmanfeats.blogspot.ca/p/stealth.html
ALL pis?? like all the fights i posted?i could show you 100 scans of his MA ability, nerve strikes to take out grundy-level villains, speed and durability feats way WAY beyond human, but you'd just say they're stupid and hand wave them away.
No, I wouldn't ignore the ones where Batman isn't fighting some other notable character. I wouldn't ignore his feats outside of his showings over other characters. Those are the ones that are the most reliable.
Yet, for some reason you can't understand this.
you asked for scans to support his fights, i've given PLENTY,
No, you haven't. You have given me more showings over other characters.
but you likely haven't looked through them,
I have, and you haven't given me what I asked for. You're ignoring what I am asking for, and providing showings over other characters.
or just don't like them so don't count them.
I don't like them because they mean that Batman is a faster than light planet destroying demi-god.
In what world does that make sense?
a 15 second search will show you literally DOZENS of feats that support the vast majority of his fights. but again, if you don't like them, they wouldn't matter.
So, it should be easy for you to provide feats outside of his showings over other characters? If all it takes is a fifteen second google search. Yet, you have still failed to provide me with what I asked for.