Iron Fist/w Prep vs Batman, Cassandra Cain, & Nightwing

Originally posted by abhilegend
Batman has fought and stalemated Wonder woman 4 times.

Yes, and every one of those times is entirely idiotic. Batman has no showings outside of that to even suggest it makes sense.

It matters little if he is superhuman or not. He is just that much skilled.

Nope, this would make Batman superhuman. Just like it makes Iron Fist superhuman for being able to fight Davos without his chi.

You either argue that Batman is a faster than light planet destroying demi-god or you don't.

Karate Kid shits on Rand in striking power and speed and yet Batman stalemated him. Two versions of Karate Kids.

Yeah, and both of those fights entirely idiotic and should have ended with Batman destroyed and dismayed.

He has a superpower called "popularity."

So yeah, you can only ignore Batman's feats. Glad we established that.

Nope, you have yet to provide any instance that showcases that Batman is a faster than light planet destroying demi-god outside of this.

Now get to it.

I want to see him punching some planets in half.

So basically you ignore all of Batman's showings which shows he can beat Rand and declare yourself winner.

I ignore anything Rand does which is superhuman as it doesn't makes sense and declare Batman the winner.

Solid tactic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Basically you ignore all of Batman's showings which shows he can beat Rand and declare yourself winner.

Nope, what I am ignoring is all of Batman's fights that don't make a lick of sense. Which you are trying to play off as sensible.

I ignore anything Rand does which is superhuman as it doesn't makes sense and declare Batman the winner.

While at the same refusing to provide any instances that show Batman is remotely as superhuman as Iron Fist. As you are incapable of providing said evidence.

Solid tactic.

So, how about Batman fighting Superman after all you yourself argued in favor of these fights being legitimate. The only way that makes sense is if Batman is as fast and strong as those characters.

Everything Batman does makes no sense. Not sure where you draw the line...?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Everything Batman does makes no sense. Not sure where you draw the line...?

At the point where Batman is able to defeat Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, and the Flash at the same time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So basically you ignore all of Batman's showings which shows he can beat Rand and declare yourself winner.

I ignore anything Rand does which is superhuman as it doesn't makes sense and declare Batman the winner.

Solid tactic.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Rinse and repeat.

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Good idea.

Originally posted by Sharivan
Nope, what I am ignoring is all of Batman's fights that don't make a lick of sense. Which you are trying to play off as sensible.

While at the same refusing to provide any instances that show Batman is remotely as superhuman as Iron Fist. As you are incapable of providing said evidence.

So, how about Batman fighting Superman after all you yourself argued in favor of these fights being legitimate. The only way that makes sense is if Batman is as fast and strong as those characters.

Originally posted by Sharivan
At the point where Batman is able to defeat Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, and the Flash at the same time.

But then...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman, easily. Him being Batman alone is already superhuman.

As I've said before:

Imagine a celebrity famous for doing nothing except being a rich heir to a fortune, and a party animal. In effect, Paris Hilton.

Now imagine that person also has the business smarts of a Bill Gates.

So far, so good. Ashton Kutcher is like this, after all.

Now Paris Hilton, is also a master of 127 different martial arts. Something that some people take decades just to master one or two.

Ninja Paris Hilton, also holds multiple degrees in engineering, forensic sciences, applied mechanics etc etc etc. And is able to take others' work apart, not just Earth tech, but also Kryptonian/Thanagarian/Martian/Apokolipton etc tech, and understand it.

Ninja Paris, PhDx10, ALSO speaks five or six different languages, fluently, fluently enough she could easily disguise herself (another skill she's learnt, btw), and blend in anywhere in the world.

All by the age of 35.

And is also a master escape artist.

And is an Olympic level gymnast, powerlifter, and is pretty decent and sprinting AND marathons.

And can KO horses.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh, I forgot - Ninja Paris Hilton, in the course of her studies around the world, training with the worst criminals and assassins the world has to offer, attending the finest universities money can buy - is able to do all of this secretly. Not one of her classmates will remember her, nor will any of the assasins/criminals attempt to blackmail her.

She will one day suddenly pop back in NYC, nobody will know where she's been (even though you could do so by just checking academic records etc), and a few months later, a shadowy vigilante will suddenly appear.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But then...

Lord Rand has the power of interracial romance, and will inevitably get backup from #blacklivesmatters. Who will drop him the moment they find out he's white.

Which means Donald Trump will be there to save him, and Donald Trump's power is maximum.

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This is one wall they're not getting past.

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But my point was, everything about Batman is PIS. No ordinary human can do what he does.

So to draw a line and say, well, ninja Paris is A-OK, but this is not, seems a bit arbitrary if you're using the 'he's human' as your reasoning.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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But my point was, everything about Batman is PIS. No ordinary human can do what he does.

So to draw a line and say, well, ninja Paris is A-OK, but this is not, seems a bit arbitrary if you're using the 'he's human' as your reasoning.

Yes, I acknowledge that but there is a difference between being superhuman and being blatantly superhuman. Namely that the latter is a one-man army that can murder giant monsters with their bare hands, and destroy helicarriers.

There's kind of a wee bit difference there don't you think? Just a little bit.

Originally posted by Sharivan
Yes, I acknowledge that but there is a difference between being superhuman and being blatantly superhuman. Namely that the latter is a one-man army that can murder giant monsters with their bare hands, and destroy helicarriers.

There's kind of a wee bit difference there don't you think? Just a little bit.

There is a difference, but you seem to want to disregard Bats' showings because they make no sense. I'm saying nothing of Batman's makes sense - but we allow it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There is a difference, but you seem to want to disregard Bats' showings because they make no sense. I'm saying nothing of Batman's makes sense - but we allow it.

Now you sound just like my old philosophy instructor. In which case it doesn't matter at all, and it's entirely subjective. Which makes this entire argument pointless.

Team should win.

Team still wins.

Team still loses.

Batman is not a faster than light, planet destroying demi-god.

Good thing is he doesn't needs to be that to beat Rand. Just ask the Cat.

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Good thing is he doesn't needs to be that to beat Rand. Just ask the Cat.

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Good thing that Pr already said your lot should stop the lowballing pages ago. Yet, the moderators seems to be lazy around here. I assume that's how you get away with half the things you do.

Losing to The Cat is a low showing now, eh?

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Good thing is he doesn't needs to be that to beat Rand. Just ask the Cat.

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