Beyonder Doom vs. God Doom
Beyonder Doom vs. God Doom
Depends which version of Beyonder I guess.
If pre-retcon, Beyonder Doom has the whole 'thousands of times powerful than everything power so probably wins.
If post-retcon, then at that point Doom only had the power of the child-unit/CCU Beyonder, which God Doom is explicitly thousands of times more powerful than.
So depends on that I guess.
Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
If post-retcon, then at that point Doom only had the power of the child-unit/CCU Beyonder, which God Doom is explicitly thousands of times more powerful than.
Which is Hickman's BS of course. Even post Retcon, many of Beyonder's multiversal feats were still valid (the most notorious was erasing Death from all creation and the LT and all other Cosmic Powers were there unable to stop him or reverse it). Post Retcon Beyonder also had control over TIME as well as his other reality warping powers (Hickman's Beyonders have no control over it). Spiderman had post retcon Beyonder's power for a few seconds yet he remade ALL creation. Molecule Man and Post Retcon Beyonder's fight was TRANSmultiversal.
Beyonder Doom stomps.
Originally posted by zopzopSpiderman had post retcon Beyonder's power for a few seconds
yet he remade ALL creation.
But, even more astonishing,
is that Wolverine and Doom separately also remade all creation,
within that same nanosecond.
In fact, all 3 of them, lived entire separate lives, within that billionth of a second. 😂
Cool, that was one detail that was warped, but that's it. It's minute in the grand scheme of the story.
Everything else is nigh-verbatim to the original story.
Anywho, I supposed the mini arc, "Last Planet Standing," is also auto non-canon?
Oh ahbi, you never fail. I have several more in wait, but I wanna see you wiggle around this first.
Homie, if you got no official Marvel sources to support your claim, and, I know you don't,
don't come at me again with this fallacy. Actually, since I know, don't come at me again.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, it wasn't. Spider-Man gave Hulk the pep talk when he was bracing the mountain for example when it was Reed in the actual story. There are a lot of inconsistencies between it and the actual story.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Cool, that was one detail that was warped, but that's it. It's minute in the grand scheme of the story.
Everything else is nigh-verbatim to the original story.
Other parts were inconsistent as well. It wasn't "warped".
Anywho, I supposed the mini arc, "Last Planet Standing," is also auto non-canon?
😐
Of course. Its from MC2, a different reality altogether.
Oh ahbi, you never fail. I have several more in wait, but I wanna see you wiggle around this first.
When I mean non canon, it means they occur in a different reality and are not canon to 616 characters.
Homie, if you got no official Marvel sources to support your claim, and, I know you don't,
don't come at me again with this fallacy. Actually, since I know, don't come at me again.
Oh you poor fool.
Originally posted by abhilegendOther parts were inconsistent as well. It wasn't "warped".
Originally posted by abhilegendOf course. Its from MC2, a different reality altogether.
Originally posted by abhilegendWhen I mean non canon, it means they occur in a different reality and are not canon to 616 characters.
So, now you have you try and find (actually make up some more bullshit)
that mysterious "realty" where the Spidey SW mini took place.
Dude, I mean ... facepalm ...
Originally posted by Mr Master
What "other" parts?
Hulk and Spidey fighting Enchantress. Enchantress playing with Spider-Man for a whole issue.
Etc.
The wiggle.
The ****? MC2 is canon to 616 now?
Interesting fallacy.
So, now you have you try and find (actually make up some more bullshit)
that mysterious "realty" where the Spidey SW mini took place.Dude, I mean ... facepalm ...
Dude, shut the **** up if you can't understand such a simple concept.
Originally posted by abhilegendHulk and Spidey fighting Enchantress.
Enchantress playing with Spider-Man for a whole issue.
First, it's not a re-print, it's a follow up. So yea, it's not going to be identical.
The point of the mini is to present details we never got to see in the original portrayals.
These "details" are obviously made up by Tobin (writer) so, he can add anything he wants.
Oh, and Enchantress wasn't playing with Spidey,
that was Galactus right before the heroes challenged him, while they were observing him.
Originally posted by abhilegendThe ****? MC2 is canon to 616 now?
Now the spin (wiggle) is, that "all ages" books only apply to alternate realities. 😆
Which is complete bull shit
Originally posted by abhilegendDude, shut the **** up if you can't understand such a simple concept.
And ... Let me know when you have that proof,
which means,
you'll never let me know since the proof is non-existent. 👆
Originally posted by Mr Master
I see you don't understand the concept behind the mini.First, it's not a re-print, it's a follow up. So yea, it's not going to be identical.
That's not what it is. It's a reinterpretation in a different reality.
Hulk lifting the mountain is one of the most iconic scenes of Secret Wars and this book completely changed that. There is no way to reconcile it.
The point of the mini is to present details we never got to see in the original portrayals.
These "details" are obviously made up by Tobin (writer) so, he can add anything he wants.
And as this is an all ages comic, it's not happening in 616 universe.
And no, he can't just add whatever he want.
Oh, and Enchantress wasn't playing with Spidey,
that was Galactus right before the heroes challenged him, while they were observing him.
Enchantress was causing that too.
😐 .. It's a "wiggle" cause you made it seem like "all ages" rated books never happened.
😂
Where did you even get that you fool?
Non canon doesn't means never happened.
Now the spin (wiggle) is, that "all ages" books only apply to alternate realities. 😆
That's how marvel advertised the comic.
Which is complete bull shit
Nah, you shut the **** up with your lieS!
Hahaha, oh you poor deluded fool.
Keep paddling the same bullshit.
And ... Let me know when you have that proof,
which means,
you'll never let me know since the proof is non-existent. 👆
The proof is right there on cover.
👆
Originally posted by abhilegendThat's not what it is. It's a reinterpretation in a different reality.
Hulk lifting the mountain is one of the most iconic scenes of Secret Wars and this book completely changed that.
Still waiting on that non-existent proof which tells us the number or name of this "different reality."
Originally posted by abhilegendAnd as this is an all ages comic, it's not happening in 616 universe.
Originally posted by abhilegendAnd no, he can't just add whatever he want.
Originally posted by abhilegendEnchantress was causing that too.
I hate when you step to me without knowing what the **** you're debating about.
Originally posted by abhilegendThat's how marvel advertised the comic.
Originally posted by abhilegend
The proof is right there on cover.
In the Spiderman/SW mini, many scenes directly from the original SW were portrayed and expanded on,
but this stands out as a depiction which stamps the book as 100% canon to the original SW:
While moving through "time" with the imaginary Enchantress due to Galactus' presence warping reality,
she points out to Spidey a momentous occasion in his history, namely, finding the Black Suit,
which ONLY took place in the original SW, and which ONLY produced a 616 limited run called Web of Spiderman:
*** (Spiderman and SW mini) ***
*** (original Secret Wars #8) ***
... The illustration and even the dialogue is verbatim. ... stoned
Now come claim that there are/were two Web of Spiderman.😆 (no room for wiggle here punk)
But never mind, and troll on, as you most definitely will return with exactly that..
Originally posted by Mr Master
Hulk was portrayed doing the exact same thing in the Spidey mini, as he did in the original SW.
The only difference is that Tobin gave Spidey Reed's dialogue in the mountain scene.
And that in itself is proof enough that its not canon to 616 universe.
Still waiting on that non-existent proof which tells us the number or name of this "different reality."
This is an all ages comic and Paul Tobin himself informed that All Ages comics are not bound by code of continuity.
https://blog.tfaw.com/2010/12/06/paul-tobin-tells-all-about-spider-girl-marvel-adventures/
And as this is an all ages rated story, Spiderman & SW, so it is happening in the 616 universe. 👆
Even the writer denies that.
Yea he can, since it's from a point of reference we never saw in the original.
And not bound by continuity.
*random bullshit*
This is all unnecessary at this point. I would like to burst your bubble once more but who cares
The comic is out of continuity. Cry more.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And that in itself is proof enough that its not canon to 616 universe.
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is an all ages comic and Paul Tobin himself informed that
All Ages comics are not bound by code of continuity.
No proof of any kind from Marvel comics.
Beyond that:
Originally posted by Digi
KMC Vs. FORUM RULESAn obscure interview given by someone involved in a story arc is not proof.
Neither is a random post by a supposed writer on a message board, blogs, tweets, etc.
There have been too many of these so called interviews which go against what's shown on panel.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=9388817#post9388817
So take your wannabe 'reference' and shove it. Phuk I care what some ghost text on the net states.
... not Marvel comics, or official Marvel sources? .. phuck off.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Even the writer denies that.
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is all unnecessary at this point. I would like to burst your bubble once more but who caresThe comic is out of continuity. Cry more.
Anywho, the Spiderman and Secret Wars mini is 100% canon to the original Secret Wars
which took place and is canon to 616.
When you have that official Marvel source saying otherwise, return.
but, I know you'll come back with more gobbledygook.
That's who/what you are and we all know it.
