Beyonder Doom vs. God Doom

Originally posted by Mr Master
How many times did the Watcher, or anyone for that matter
pop up in the Spidey mini to highlight how we were indulging an alternate reality story?

(silence) .. and, exactly old friend.

Marvel readers are always given an indication they are dealing with an alternate universe.

we are given an indication--all ages is on the cover. and we know all ages books are NOT canon. the one time they officially tied one to continuity they announced it. any other all ages book canon that you know of? you've already acknowledged there are differences in the retelling vs the real thing. so, between the differences (even if minor) and what we know about other all ages books, not sure why you're so certain it is canon. you claim there is no proof that it ISN'T canon. there is equally no proof it is. similarity of story isn't enough imo. it could simply be another retelling that is mostly correct. you also say there is nothing indicating an alt universe, but what about this famous book:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/48945/903630-gladiatorvssilversurfer.jpg

is there something specific in that book, or others like it, that specifically tell us its another universe? because that fight past for canon for a long whole....i don't know the answer to that question tbh....

i'll freely admit i don't care one way or the other. definitive claims from either side seem sort of ridiculous though. imo the any feats from story should be left out of debates purely because it's so ambiguous. /shrug

Originally posted by Mr Master
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I'm sorry too brah, but I have yet to see any evidence to suggest it is not canon.

What other books are you referring to?

I'd like to see identical illustrations and dialogue referencing the original 616 template, like in the Spidey mini.

Oh never-mind then. Still would be curious to find out what he says.

So there lies the issue. Honestly, I'm open to it being canon. However, from prior experience All-Ages comics tend not to be. Could this be the exception? Maybe. but haven't seen anything clearly to say it is. *shrugs* So this becomes very murky.

I'll have to go back, but Fantastic Four had a few retellings.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Oh never-mind then. Still would be curious to find out what he says.

So there lies the issue. Honestly, I'm open to it being canon. However, from prior experience All-Ages comics tend not to be. Could this be the exception? Maybe. but haven't seen anything clearly to say it is. *shrugs* So this becomes very murky.

I'll have to go back, but Fantastic Four had a few retellings.

pretty much my thoughts as well. 👆

you'd think it would at least be mentioned somewhere in a handbook somewhere, or in a for-sure canon comic if it really was intended to be canon material.

Originally posted by krisblaze
I don't think anyone in their right mind(set) actually believes that Doom is smarter than Reed.

Doom is Reed's inspiration, his only reason for being.

He wants to impress his superior.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Oh never-mind then. Still would be curious to find out what he says.

So there lies the issue. Honestly, I'm open to it being canon. However, from prior experience All-Ages comics tend not to be. Could this be the exception? Maybe. but haven't seen anything clearly to say it is. *shrugs* So this becomes very murky.

I'll have to go back, but Fantastic Four had a few retellings.

The writer himself said that the all ages comics are non canon.