Candidates for Tier 9 combatants?

Started by MythLord5 pages

Vader, Caedus and Dooku, tbh.

I mean, the Gillard email isn't even 100% legit as when I asked Ant to give it to me, he didn't respond.

For fuck sake.

It wouldn't matter if Gillard said his own character Cin Drallig was a ten - I think he has somewhere. His opinions on the matter aren't canon. I can't believe no one wants to argue this.

👆 zig ziggidy to the rescue

Mace level and up sans Dooku if Ant can provide the email.

Zzzz...

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Already disproved.

You can stop repeating broken memes Nova as well as pretending Gillard knows what he's talking about. Caedus is not even Dooku level and Nick 'lightsaber forms do not exist' Gillard, is not a canon.

Stop reaching and I won't have to shit on you, like I did on CV.

I suppose you shit on everyone you talk to, since they don't bother to indulge you.

Also, I explicitly said in this thread (or the other) that I'm not suggesting that Gillard's rankings are canon. I'm merely asking how people would build on his rankings.

It's kind of hard to do given how broke the logic of his system is tbh.

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Nova, why rank Mace and not Anakin? The tier 9 Mace we see in the movies was in the deepest state of Vaapad he could ever be in while under normal circumstances he's perceived as an equal to Dooku, evn at the time Gillard gave the quote. Anakin, under normal circumstances, is there as well, his "destroying Dooku mode/tier 9 duelist" was a one-time thing when releasing everything he'd been holding back for years. Gillard's quoting in general seems controversial, claiming AotC Anakin is a level 5??

Level 5 would have to be utter fodder, given the supposed massive differences in ability between tiers.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Level 5 would have to be utter fodder, given the supposed massive differences in ability between tiers.

Yeah absolutely but if that's not correct how can we be sure that everything else he says is?

Nothing he says is correct. I can't believe this is still a discussion, **** Gillard he shouldn't be used for an argument on KMC ever again

He said AotC Anakin was a 7, not a 5.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Nothing he says is correct. I can't believe this is still a discussion, **** Gillard he shouldn't be used for an argument on KMC ever again
This obsession is getting old tbh yeah.

Originally posted by SunRazer
I suppose you shit on everyone you talk to, since they don't bother to indulge you. Also, I explicitly said in this thread (or the other) that I'm not suggesting that Gillard's rankings are canon. I'm merely asking how people would build on his rankings.

Sunrazer,

When creating a circle-jerk thread with groupthink ambitions, don't expect that all is fine and dandy. You have presented some of your delusions in front of everyone, and if you're to carry on, I rather expect you to be in a position to explain them - yes that means answering criticisms too. Now I understand the desire to duck opponents outside your weight class, but it would be rather refreshing if you just admitted there are certain arguments you don't want to make, when certain imposing figures are looming over them. It would also be nice if you admitted I have qualities you have yet to understand, much less apply them yourself. The first is the ability to apply context with usage of quotes contained in literature - for this reason Caedus is not stomping a Katarn-level combatant within seconds, and theres is nothing to suggest he can do so - it's rather the opposite. The next is to understand what is Canon and what is not, why it is important to only use canon information in discussions.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
He said AotC Anakin was a 7, not a 5.

But then he said Anakin moved up four levels towards RotS...

Tier nine duelists would be Luke, Yoda, Palpatine, Anakin, Windu, and Plagueis.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Tier nine duelists would be Luke, Yoda, Palpatine, Anakin, Windu, and Plagueis.

Then how are Windu and Anakin only statlemating a level 8 duelist in the form of Dooku?

Skywalker destroyed Dooku. Windu and Dooku never fought long enough for a conclusive match.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Skywalker destroyed Dooku. Windu and Dooku never fought long enough for a conclusive match.

Yeah when he released all his anger all at once, the RotS novel made that pretty clear, that's something he isn't going to do twice. Windu was by accolades an equal to Dooku, not to mention that Windu's Vaapad allowed him to compete with Palpatine (and become a tier 9 duelist) because not only his inner darkness was beyond anything it had been before but also because he was facing the most powerfil Sith ever, pretty much the perfect circumstances for him.