Goku Black vs Hit

Goku and Vegeta also had a lot of upgrades since. (As did Black) In their first figh fight against "SSJ Rose", Black beat Goku and Vegeta as easy as Hit ever did.

Uh, for one thing, Hit did have an easier time against Vegeta than Black did; Black really only ended the fight decisively through foul play.

Secondly, Hit at the end of the tournament is well over ten times stronger than when he fought Vegeta, lmao. His evolution power is retardedly OP.

Vegeta was tired. Goku did a lot better.

And Black took the same Goku out right away. By DBS established power curves, Goku is probably stronger than tourney super-kaioken at regular SSJ blue now.

Yeah, that's not suggested anywhere at all.

Yup.
That's just assumption.

It's called deductive reasoning.

Like Vegeta being tired. It doesn't need to be started he burned through a lot of energy, because logically having three fights prior to Hit would force him to burn up a lot of energy.

Black was stronger than Goku and Vegeta at/near the levels they were at the tournament. We know this because he beat both.

Black fused with Zamasu is logically much stronger than that. He should be stronger than Hit or Goku from that tourney.

Goku and Vegeta,,post upgrades, were both able to hold off fused Zamasu. Therefore, Zamasu > Goku/Vegeta >>>>> Goku/Hit

Originally posted by Inedian
Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha

The truth:

As we saw after Vegeta attack, after his show, he didn't even hurt Black, didn't even give him a scratch.
Black clones being easily more powerful than Goku and Vegeta, putting them in pain with one punch. And of course, them becoming more and more drained, exhausted.

Vegeta never even a challenge for Black.

The truth:

The only reason for merging was Zamasu becoming scared of Mafuba (and of course the main reason was because he didn't know the nature of Mafuba).

But thank you, you really made me laugh.

Black handles Hit in the same manner as he did Goku and Vegeta always.

I know you're not blind because you read my post. When you look at this scene, open your eyes...

https://youtu.be/Y6qr6qxwOMY

Vegeta was working Black. Black doesn't need a hole on his body for us to see that he wasn't a challenge to Vegeta. Hit took on (while holding back) Goku amped and held his own. I know you like Black but this doesn't mean close your eyes to everything.

And me making you laugh? You're being laugh atright now.

Yeah, SSJB Vegeta beat the absolute dogsh!t out of SSJ Rose Black.

While Vegeta did get marginally stronger from the beginning of the Black saga to that point, Hit was roughly 10 times more powerful after fighting Goku, than he was at the beginning of the tournament when he pwned Vegeta.

Hit >= KK 10X SSJB Goku >>> Merged Zamasu > Deteriorating Zamasu > SSJB Black saga Vegeta > SSJB Black saga Goku > Zamasu >>> SSJB tournament Goku/Vegeta >>> SSJB tournament Vegeta(post Frost, Magetta, Cabba fights).

Vegeta was what, like 1/10th as strong as he was at the beginning of the tournament? Otherwise, he would have EASILY knocked Hit out before he could evolve to his level.

Marginally stronger.

Hah. Like Freeza got "marginally" stronger.

Or Hit got "marginally" stronger against super kaioken Goku.

This "marginally stronger" Vegeta held off fused Zamasu. He was a damned sight more than "marginal".

The producer (an important job that requires unknowable knowledge of the show) has confirmed Black is over everything that isn't a GoD or fused. Black wins, now, obviously. I'm taking a knowledgeable WoG over fan theories any day of the week.

Originally posted by U need Leonard
The producer (an important job that requires unknowable knowledge of the show) has confirmed Black is over everything that isn't a GoD or fused. Black wins, now, obviously. I'm taking a knowledgeable WoG over fan theories any day of the week.

Indeed.

Originally posted by U need Leonard
The producer (an important job that requires unknowable knowledge of the show) has confirmed Black is over everything that isn't a GoD or fused. Black wins, now, obviously. I'm taking a knowledgeable WoG over fan theories any day of the week.

I'm going by what's shown during the show. You can ignore that if you want but Hit is more powerful. We will probably get to see this in further detail when he show up on earth.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm going by what's shown during the show. You can ignore that if you want but Hit is more powerful. We will probably get to see this in further detail when he show up on earth.

And during the show it was shown that Black > (Vegeta + Goku combined) and easily at that.

Black > Hit.

Producer statement only confirms this.

Originally posted by Inedian
And during the show it was shown that Black > (Vegeta + Goku combined) and easily at that.

Black > Hit.

Producer statement only confirms this.

Please look above. Vegeta was owning Black which is the reason him and Z merged. Z even flies over to try and assist Black with Vegeta. Hit treated both Vegeta and Goku like fodder and if Goku didn't amp himself, he would lost to a holding back Hit. Open your eyes.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm going by what's shown during the show. You can ignore that if you want but Hit is more powerful. We will probably get to see this in further detail when he show up on earth.

That potential discussion is killed, though, by WoG.

Hit, instantly.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Hit, instantly.

Yep. None fight. Like I've said before, Hit is the most dangerous character in DragonBall history.

Hit didn't do his job, can't kill Goku.
Anyway, Black easily.

Hit easy.

Originally posted by Inedian
Hit didn't do his job, can't kill Goku.
Anyway, Black easily.

You're obviously trolling. Goku took on both Z and Black and was stomping them. Vegeta was stomping Black. Hit treated Goku like fodder in a single hit. Hit stomps without getting touched.