Meetra Surik and Darth Traya vs Darth Revan

Started by Beniboybling5 pages

Originally posted by Nephthys
Beni is faithful to me. 😍
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>Canderous states Revan is no longer a singular Jedi in a combative regard after meeting the Exile.
>Malak > Darth Revan is canon, so apparently Malak stomps them both.
>Meetra > Alek is stated to be the case in the Mandalorian Wars by the novel and Revan himself, Meetra far surpasses this by the novel, as Revan himself confirms yet again.
>Revan repeatedly refers to Meetra as his greatest and most trusted ally bar none, yet he still considers Malak his 'friend' at this point.
>Traya > Malak is obvious in terms of feats and her entity accolades.
>Meetra > Traya in the years after KotOR II is confirmed by Sion and even Traya herself.

But Chris Avellone, who dismisses himself as any authority, thinks Darth Revan 'kicks ass' with his epic 'strategies'. Obviously we take Chris Avellone's unofficial opinion over actual canonical inferences.

What epic strategies did Darth Revan even do? I recall like....nothing of what his strategies entail.

He states Darth Revan can defeat them with extreme Force power and his master strategies.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
What epic strategies did Darth Revan even do? I recall like....nothing of what his strategies entail.
He took the Mando strategies and... copied them.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
He took the Mando strategies and... copied them.

Huh, I knew it was either you or someone else who said that awhile back, guess I forgot that.

Avellone thinks Revan beats them because of their character weaknesses anyway. It's not even a matter of Revan's combative prowess, lmfao.

It's okay, Nova. The duo might be able to beat pre-Mandalorian Wars Revan. 😂

Originally posted by Beniboybling
He took the Mando strategies and... copied them.


He used their own strategies and tactics against them, but he didn't "copy" them. That's misleading. He beat them because he fought like a Mandalorian with an understanding for sacrifice. In other words, he beat the Mandalorians at their own game. He beat the Mandalorians at being Mandalorian. I'm not surprised you can't grasp this concept though. You're intellectually slower than everyone on these boards, Ching and Kurk included.

Wrong. There's at least two or three people in the KoTORII/TOR forum squad that are dumber than Beni.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
He used their own strategies and tactics against them, but he didn't "copy" them. That's misleading. He beat them because he fought like a Mandalorian with an understanding for sacrifice. In other words, he beat the Mandalorians at their own game. He beat the Mandalorians at being Mandalorian. I'm not surprised you can't grasp this concept though. You're intellectually slower than everyone on these boards, Ching and Kurk included.
Nice to see you took the bait, a disappointing lack of nerdrage though. Ah well.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Wrong. There's at least two or three people in the KoTORII/TOR forum squad that are dumber than Beni.
Fresh, Ant and others yeah.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by AncientPower
>Canderous states Revan is no longer a singular Jedi in a combative regard after meeting the Exile.

Citation needed.

Ordo says they are both singular Jedi because they defeated the best of the Mandalorians. But a heavy majority of the Mandalorians were already dead by the time the Exile confronted the Ordo Clan on Dxun, so a direct comparison is misleading.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Fresh, Ant and others yeah.

Response doesn't even makes sense. Not only are we not a part of those groups, but using "others" to dodge the point is about as nonsensical as saying nothing at all.

Originally posted by Selenial
Every author's opinions on battles is able to be "taken with a grain of salt". I don't go up to Bart, ask for his opinion on a duel and then take it as canon. Authors aren't canon sources for versus battles, I don't get why people insist on using them as such. Karpyshyn even says:

[B]"I'm not any kind of official expert or authority on Star Wars. I wrote some books for them, but I don't get to say what is or isn't canon or official or anything like that. [...] That's why I'm reluctant to answer questions like this; because even with all these caveats it's inevitable that fans will give my opinion more weight than it's worth. So, to sum up, I told you my opinion, but it doesn't have any real weight, importance or authority."

Now that doesn't go for all author statements, if someone's willing to clarify if something is a Nexus or not, if a character progressed through their source or not, or if they wrote their character to be capable of X, Y, or Z that's perfectly acceptable imho. Asking people who haven't written content for a decade to comment on characters that have been capped and rewritten since then really isn't steady ground for any kind of canon statement. Like seriously, when Avellone was writing for Kotot and by extension Revan, the public consensus was that Revan and the Exile were Sidious and Yoda tier respectively. The novel and SWTOR changed that at least somewhat, as did more detailed explorations of characters, but it's important to remember that it was then that Avellone was writing and actually creating for Star Wars 😬 [/B]

tbh 👆 👆

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Response doesn't even makes sense. Not only are we not a part of those groups, but using "others" to dodge the point is about as nonsensical as saying nothing at all.
Ah sorry, forgot you were in denial. And what point, darling?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Ah sorry, forgot you were in denial. And what point, darling?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNYf894ZM8U

Lmao, I really irk you don't I. 🙂

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