Originally posted by The EllimistIt's been stated that Vader was the second most powerful person in the galaxy, second to the Emperor, but the wording of the statement suggest it may in this case be political rather than Force power.
I think it was outright stated somewhere that Vader was stronger, but that might not apply to Geth's dathomir amp.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Vader only defers to Tarkin on the Death Star because it's Tarkin's battlestation, but in the grand scheme of things Vader is #2, that's at least how I understand it.
I don't imagine Sidious would ever give a non-Force sensitive a higher station than the dark lord of the sith, lmao.
Originally posted by ZiggystardustLol don't get ahead of yourself dear, I'll have to suffer a blow from the head before I believe Sidious was too politically powerful for Yoda to beat... in a duel.
I'm glad some of you are finally coming on board. The quote you're thinking of refers to Vader as Palaptine's right hand man - it is however, still not canon.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
It's been stated that Vader was the second most powerful person in the galaxy, second to the Emperor, but the wording of the statement suggest it may in this case be political rather than Force power.
Lmao, you too?
His devotion to the Emperor and mastery of the dark side gives him more power than any single individual in the galaxy except for the Emperor himself.
Right, but "devotion to the Emperor" wouldn't give him power/mastery over the dark side, but rather political power as a reward for loyalty. And even if in some contrived way it could be argued to, it begs the question why it's treated as a separate clause to "mastery of the dark side" itself. Then it compares Vader to "any single individual in the galaxy", despite the vast majority of individuals being non-Force sensitive, making the comparison redundant.
If the quote read say "his mastery and knowledge of the dark side gives him more power than any Force wielder in the galaxy, except the Emperor himself" then I'd be on board, but unfortunately it does not.
Originally posted by cs_zoltanYes, they are, but its redundant to then extend the statement to what's not relevant. It's like saying within real world contexts that X is the smartest man in the galaxy, rather than the world. Just because it makes logical sense doesn't make it any less unnecessary.
Because every force users is not included in every individual? Right...
Originally posted by NephthysYeah, at best his galactic authority is in part a testament to his power in the Force, but nothing more. While Geth's total lack of loyalty to Sidious is an obvious impediment to her own supremacy.
Yeah, that's clearly at least partly political. Devotion to Sidious doesn't make him more powerful in a practical sense. Vader is the second most powerful because of his loyalty/relationship with Sidious as his apprentice and because he is vastly stronger than anyone else in the Empire's employ.