Originally posted by ZenwolfYeah because failing to beat Ezra is such an improvement. mmm
That don't mean they still can't train, it'd be pretty dumb of Inquisitors to just not improve on their skills just because they've completed their training. It's pretty clear that throughout the duels before the finale, that the 5th bro improved on his saber skill.
Regardless you didn't answer my question, so naw, it's PIS.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
You didn't answer my question, which means its PIS, so naw. 🙂
What question?
I also said that it's clear the 5th bro did improve on his saber skill as of the duels preceding the finale.
So then as Ezra and Kanan trained with eachother, instead of thinking the Inquisitors improved which seems logical, they didn't and even still the former weren't better than them? Ok..
Originally posted by Beniboybling
I asked you for a precedent for characters not called Anakin or Luke improving considerably over the course of a year.And I have no idea that that last sentence is supposed to mean.
Well I can't think of any off the top of my head, especially not in Canon since that goes by different rules.
Ok...Ezra and Kanan trained with one another right? They showed to improve. Instead of thinking the Inquisitors also improved, the former still couldn't beat them despite their improvement and the latter not improving.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
That's because they're aren't any lol.And they much did better against the Inquisitors than before, as the Fifth Brother himself notes.
Regardless I never said the Fifth Brother didn't improve, just not dramatically.
So then why can't there just be improvements? Why does a length of time really need to factor in for a Force User? Need I remind Rey? 🙄 Is there some kind of length of time a Force User needs to go through in order to improve?
Well ok, I didn't say he improved dramatically, just that it'd seem logical he would improve.
Plus watching the fight again, we barely see the Inquisitors fighting, there's a large length of time where it's just showing Maul and Ezra and at one point you do see the 5th Bro being driven back.
Originally posted by ZenwolfRey is a bad example, she could easily turn out to be a Skywalker, or something like it. And there tends to be, yes. Force users don't suddenly undergo dramatic growths in power unless they have exceptionally high potential or at the beginning of their training. It took two years for example, for Ahsoka to undergo notable growth in TCW, a Padawan, with great potential, fighting in the Clone Wars.
So then why can't there just be improvements? Why does a length of time really need to factor in for a Force User? Need I remind Rey? 🙄 Is there some kind of length of time a Force User needs to go through in order to improve?Well ok, I didn't say he improved dramatically, just that it'd seem logical he would improve.
Seriously a year on from fighting Ahsoka and the Fifth Brother is getting knocked on his ass by Ezra, he's probably gotten better, but not by a great deal. Not enough to go from being one-shotted by Tano to holding her off for 1:30, which is the crux of this debate.
Originally posted by SiniousWhere did I hurt you Sinny. 🙂
As if that's even impressive
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Rey is a bad example, she could easily turn out to be a Skywalker, or something like it. And there tends to be, yes. Force users don't suddenly undergo dramatic growths in power unless they have exceptionally high potential or at the beginning of their training. It took two years for example, for Ahsoka to undergo notable growth in TCW, and she was a Padawan, with great potential.Seriously a year on from fighting Ahsoka and the Fifth Brother is getting knocked on his ass by Ezra, he's probably gotten better, but not by a great deal. Not enough to go from being one-shotted by Tano to holding her off for 1:30, which is the crux of this debate.Where did I hurt you Sinny. 🙂
Could she? Sure. Do we know anything yet? No, we don't.
Except if watching the fight again, there is a large gap of time we don't see...so who knows what happens? Then later we also see the 5th Bro getting pushed back.
Plus as I recall, wasn't there a line along the lines of "We won't hurt them." By Ahsoka?
Exactly, which makes it a bad example.
Well he doesn't die that's for sure. But if you want to rationalise it in that manner that's fine, it's the notion that the Fifth Brother got far stronger which I take issue with.
She says that if they keep killing them, more will come back. So yeah, it's possible she was holding back.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Exactly, which makes it a bad example.Well he doesn't die that's for sure. But if you want to rationalise it in that manner that's fine, it's the notion that the Fifth Brother got far stronger which I take issue with.
She says that if they keep killing them, more will come back. So yeah, it's possible she was holding back.
I never said far stronger, just that he improved.