Dave Filoni on Ahsoka Tano vs Darth Vader / The Emperor

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Originally posted by |King Joker|
Filoni is > an implication on SW.com. 🙂

Lmao

Filoni contradicts himself all the time so no I take SW.com over that to be honest.

Well didn't she do that? Weird, I would swear that she was duelling evenly with the inquisitors on two occassions during the Season 2 finale.

Regarding Maul/Ahsoka, I'm not sure Filoni's remarks equate to superiority over Maul. Filoni was presumably omitting Yoda and Obi-wan from consideration and Maul isn't exactly a recurring OT-era nemesis like the rebellion's obvious enemies: Vader and the Emperor.

Besides, we saw that Maul and Ahsoka acquitted themselves reasonably well against each other on Malachor.

Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Filoni contradicts himself all the time so no I take SW.com over that to be honest.

Well didn't she do that? Weird, I would swear that she was duelling evenly with the inquisitors on two occassions during the Season 2 finale.

What has he contradicted that makes what he said unreliable in this case?

That is weird, because it didn't happen. mmm

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Regarding Maul/Ahsoka, I'm not sure Filoni's remarks equate to superiority over Maul. Filoni was presumably omitting Yoda and Obi-wan from consideration and Maul isn't exactly a recurring OT-era nemesis like the rebellion's obvious enemies: Vader and the Emperor.

Besides, we saw that Maul and Ahsoka acquitted themselves reasonably well against each other on Malachor.

Well, he would omitt Kenobi and Yoda because they aren't potential adversaries for Ahsoka. Maul was an adversary and fought Ahsoka, so in all likelihood he was being considered.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
What has he contradicted that makes what he said unreliable in this case?

That is weird, because it didn't happen. mmm

He also said that Sidious is going to kick everyone's ass during TCW for example and now suddenly Yoda was doing that in TCW?

Didn't it? We see how they need Maul's help to gain the advantage over the Inquisitors when they fight first, then we see how again Maul's help is providing them the win against both the Fifth- and Eigth Brother. In both cases has Ahsoka, with the help of Kanan, been fighting against the Inq's for a relatively long duration of time without gaining any noticeable advantage.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Filoni just said in a TCW interview that Palpatine would kick everybody's ass, now Yoda would kick everybody's ass?
You don't think Palpy and Yoda would kick everyone's ass in TCW? Lol.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
He also said that Sidious is going to kick everyone's ass during TCW for example and now suddenly Yoda was doing that in TCW?

Didn't it? We see how they need Maul's help to gain the advantage over the Inquisitors when they fight first, then we see how again Maul's help is providing them the win against both the Fifth- and Eigth Brother. In both cases has Ahsoka, with the help of Kanan, been fighting against the Inq's for a relatively long duration of time without gaining any noticeable advantage.

You guys are losing me here, what exactly is the contradiction? Sidious >>> everyone in TCW bar Yoda, as does Yoda himself, hence they used Yoda sparingly. Not rocket science.

And evidently going off Filoni's statement, the Fifth Brother is no match for Ahsoka, reinforced by how she twice one-shotted in Future of the Force, it's just PIS, and he was still losing.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Regarding Maul/Ahsoka, I'm not sure Filoni's remarks equate to superiority over Maul. Filoni was presumably omitting Yoda and Obi-wan from consideration and Maul isn't exactly a recurring OT-era nemesis like the rebellion's obvious enemies: Vader and the Emperor.

Besides, we saw that Maul and Ahsoka acquitted themselves reasonably well against each other on Malachor.

This is most probable, tbh.

I'm done with Disney.

You'll be missed. 🙂

Spoiler:
I be lyin

Originally posted by Beniboybling
You guys are losing me here, what exactly is the contradiction? Sidious >>> everyone in TCW bar Yoda, as does Yoda himself, hence they used Yoda sparingly. Not rocket science.

And evidently going off Filoni's statement, the Fifth Brother is no match for Ahsoka, reinforced by how she twice one-shotted in Future of the Force, it's just PIS, and he was still losing.

Lol 👆

Originally posted by Beniboybling
You don't think Palpy and Yoda would kick everyone's ass in TCW? Lol.You guys are losing me here, what exactly is the contradiction? Sidious >>> everyone in TCW bar Yoda, as does Yoda himself, hence they used Yoda sparingly. Not rocket science.

And evidently going off Filoni's statement, the Fifth Brother is no match for Ahsoka, reinforced by how she twice one-shotted in Future of the Force, it's just PIS, and he was still losing.This is most probable, tbh.

Because everybody obviously also includes Yoda.... while on the other quote everybody also includes Sidious.

Why is one PIS (Twilight of the Apprentice) and the other one (Future of the Force) not? Not to mention that the Inquisitors could also have grown in power between Future of the Force and Twilight of the Apprentice. Anyway I'm not claiming the Fifth Brother is a match for Ahsoka despite that's what we get to see in the Season 2 finale but how can you make a difference between Ahsoka = Fifth Brother = PIS and Ahsoka = Maul =/= PIS?

Seriously? He's making a remark in an interview, not a statement in an sourcebook, it's not intended to be taken quite so literally. He's just saying that they couldn't use Yoda so much because he's far and away above everyone else, obviously Sidious is an exception. Gosh.

And because Filoni made it clear that the Inquisitors aren't a match for Ahsoka, did I not just say that? Not that a half wit couldn't work out that the Fifth Brother going from being one-shotted like a scrub to legitimately holding his own in such a short space of time is ludicrous, but hey this is KMC.

How do you know it was a short space of time from when they first met, to the finale? In fact, we never really do get time tables for anything I've noticed..

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Seriously? He's making a remark in an interview, not a statement in an sourcebook, it's not intended to be taken quite so literally. He's just saying that they couldn't use Yoda so much because he's far and away above everyone else, obviously Sidious is an exception. Gosh.

And because Filoni made it clear that the Inquisitors aren't a match for Ahsoka, did I not just say that? Not that a half wit couldn't work out that the Fifth Brother going from being one-shotted like a scrub to legitimately holding his own in such a short space of time is ludicrous, but hey this is KMC.

Yeah gosh since that's exactly the same way this Ahsoka quote is made.

Yes but we still see it on screen, not? So now my question, which you neglected in my previous comment, is how do you make a difference between what you see on screen and what is considered PIS? The primary fact why people consider Ahsoka to be roughly equal to Maul is because they duelled evenly on screen, so how is that not PIS? We also, like in Ahsoka's case, have a canon quote confirming Maul's superiority over Ahsoka but Ahsoka's still pretty close apparently.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
How do you know it was a short space of time from when they first met, to the finale? In fact, we never really do get time tables for anything I've noticed..
Wookieepedia has made a timeline. There appears to be no more than a year between their two engagements, hardly enough for the Fifth Brother to achieve any serious let alone tremendous growth.
Originally posted by DarthDuelist9
Yeah gosh since that's exactly the same way this Ahsoka quote is made.

Yes but we still see it on screen, not? So now my question, which you neglected in my previous comment, is how do you make a difference between what you see on screen and what is considered PIS? The primary fact why people consider Ahsoka to be roughly equal to Maul is because they duelled evenly on screen, so how is that not PIS? We also, like in Ahsoka's case, have a canon quote confirming Maul's superiority over Ahsoka but Ahsoka's still pretty close apparently.

Right, so we have no problems then.

I answered your question. Re-read my response, I'm not saying it a third time.

And you have an inference, no Canon source states Maul > Ahsoka, honeybunch.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Wookieepedia has made a timeline. There appears to be no more than a year between their two engagements, hardly enough for the Fifth Brother to achieve any serious let alone tremendous growth.

Why not?

Because he's not Luke Skywalker?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Because he's not Luke Skywalker?

One doesn't need to be Luke to make gains in a short time, as I'm sure it's been noted a few times. Plus the Inquisitors do have access to resources that can help them.

If you can provide a precedent I'm all years, but yes you do.

The the Inquisitors have access to resources to do their job, they've completed their training.

That don't mean they still can't train, it'd be pretty dumb of Inquisitors to just not improve on their skills just because they've completed their training. It's pretty clear that throughout the duels before the finale, that the 5th bro improved on his saber skill.

They're trash.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
They're trash.

Never said they weren't.