Which power would you choose and why?

Started by KingD197 pages

Originally posted by marwash22
i guess. but technically, you'd just be a cheater. You wouldn't actually be skilled at anything.

ha.

so has Nic Cage:

Agreed. Well, you'd have to get fit at least and learn the basics. Like a 300lb fatass who doesn't know how to throw a punch won't win a UFC fight no matter how much he can predict. But if you got in the right shape and learned how to handle yourself, then you could indeed basically cheat your way through most things.

Cage saw into the future how to not die. He wrote Next as a cry for help because he wants to end it.

He needs to hire Danny Trejo then. Machete can counter precog, as seen in Machete Kills. 😛

Originally posted by h1a8
be smart by learning fast (before the teacher opens their mouth you would have learned the lesson and know the answer to many questions on tests)

be the best fighter (as shown in the movie)

skilled athlete (hit home run everytime, hit every basketball shot, etc). Did you see the movie? Cage was able to dodge a barrage of bullets by trial and error.

become like Deadshot and Captain America at the same time (trial and error when shooting and trial and error in fighting).

That doesn't make you smart. That makes you able to learn efficiently. Getting 100% on a test because you know the answers means you have a cheat sheet, not that you're a genius.

Everything you've mentioned the NZT pill does, but there's no need for trial and error. You're just smart enough to know how to do it. You'd be aware enough to enhance your perception of time(Bryan and Eddie have both done it) to dodge hits, or you could just get good enough at fighting to be a beast on your own, etc...

Originally posted by marwash22
i guess. but technically, you'd just be a cheater. You wouldn't actually be skilled at anything.

ha.

so has Nic Cage:

Who gives a shit? Cheating is fun to many people. I cheat all the time and have a blast at it. I would break the home run record in less than 10 years. I would always score 100 points or more a game in basketball.

Have you seen Valley Girl? Nicholas Cage was a baby boy. That destroys that myth.

your argument for the "Next" power is odd, because like KingD pointed out, NZT actually allows you to permanently enter God mode w/o the endless do-overs.

While on NZT, Bryan beat a jiu jitsu black belt after just a few hours of training.

NZT is superior to the Next power.

Originally posted by KingD19
That doesn't make you smart. That makes you able to learn efficiently. Getting 100% on a test because you know the answers means you have a cheat sheet, not that you're a genius.

Everything you've mentioned the NZT pill does, but there's no need for trial and error. You're just smart enough to know how to do it. You'd be aware enough to enhance your perception of time(Bryan and Eddie have both done it) to dodge hits, or you could just get good enough at fighting to be a beast on your own, etc...

agreed. But no one would tell the difference. That's all that matters to me.

With next power you could be the best (cheating) athlete if that's important to you (it's to me as I love sports). You can be an instant billionaire as you can win several powerballs, be greater than Floyd Mayweather, etc. You can get girls (this is the most desirable).

Originally posted by marwash22
your argument for the "Next" power is odd, because like KingD pointed out, NZT actually allows you to permanently enter God mode.

While on NZT, Bryan beat a jiu jitsu black belt after just a few hours of training.

NZT is superior to the Next power.

Nicholas cage would beat the hell out of any NZT user. He would know everymove they would make. He would be like midnighter.

You realize you can do all of that on NZT? And actually much more?

It would be funny to see someone waiting until 11:58 on the lotto night so they could get the winning number.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nicholas cage would beat the hell out of any NZT user. He would know everymove they would make. He would be like midnighter.

Nah. NZT users(shown by both Eddie and Bryan) are fast enough to dodge bullets, and can slow down their perception of time, which increases their reflexes. Cage can see what's coming, but he won't be fast enough to react.

And before you say he dodged bullets too, yes, but that was aim dodging, as he moved before they shot because he knew where they'd shoot at. What Eddie did was actually dodging a bullet, and he was so good he dodged it just enough to get slightly hit to increase his public rating. ALso the shot was taken by another NZT user from over a mile away and would have hit him in the heart had he not dodged so it grazed his arm.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nicholas cage would beat the hell out of any NZT user. He would know everymove they would make. He would be like midnighter.
he'd win a fight... okay.

but in regard to everything else you mentioned, the girls, the money, the athletic prowess, NZT allows you to ACTUALLY do it.

why would you want to pretend to be great instead of actually being great?

Originally posted by marwash22
he'd win a fight... okay.

but in regard to everything else you mentioned, the girls, the money, the athletic prowess, NZT allows you to ACTUALLY do it.

why would you want to pretend to be great instead of actually being great?

Look up. He wouldn't even win a fight.

eh. i dunno.

I think the Next user would against the NZT user simply because the Next user has unlimited do-overs. The Next user would just keep replaying the fight until he figured out how to win. The reflexes and speed isn't enough to compensate for someone countering your moves before you make them.

Also, the NZT user wouldn't even be aware of what's happening... to the NZT user, it's the first time the fight is happening. I'd imagine the Next user kills the NZT user after 2 or 3 tries.

Originally posted by KingD19
You realize you can do all of that on NZT? And actually much more?

It would be funny to see someone waiting until 11:58 on the lotto night so they could get the winning number.


Huh? The win would be instant. No wait necessary. Just watch the winner numbers on TV then type them in your cell phone. Your 2 minute past self sees the typing and then types the numbers in his cell phone. Then his 2 minute self sees it and types it. This goes on until you reach the one who can play the numbers.

Well NZT does give you some Next abilities. It's just you can get rich faster with Next. NZT is a good choice. I would choose it and try to usher us into the Star Trek generation.

Originally posted by KingD19
Nah. NZT users(shown by both Eddie and Bryan) are fast enough to dodge bullets, and can slow down their perception of time, which increases their reflexes. Cage can see what's coming, but he won't be fast enough to react.

And before you say he dodged bullets too, yes, but that was aim dodging, as he moved before they shot because he knew where they'd shoot at. What Eddie did was actually dodging a bullet, and he was so good he dodged it just enough to get slightly hit to increase his public rating. ALso the shot was taken by another NZT user from over a mile away and would have hit him in the heart had he not dodged so it grazed his arm.


So NZT gives you superhuman speed? NZT users cant move as fast as a bullet and they cant change their attack after their twitch fibers fire. Next ability allows you to aim dodge the moment before they launch the attack.

It gives them superhuman reaction/reflex/combat speed, yes. Also, an NZT user would realize rather quickly that he's predicting their moves, and based on some of the shit they've done, I see them coming up with a way around it.

Do his powers even work like that in Next? He saw everything 2 minutes into the future. And then he had that one long flashback that showed the whole thing was a vision? I don't know, they never explained that part well.

I choose Highlander. I got no probs killing to get smarts. And I could handle the years. I would just Archer&Armstrong it up.

NZT sounds like too much hassle.

i haven't seen 'Next' since it came out.

don't recall it working the way H1 describes, but i can't dispute it.

Originally posted by marwash22
i haven't seen 'Next' since it came out.

don't recall it working the way H1 describes, but i can't dispute it.

Iirc, for most of the movie he sees up to a maximum of 2 minutes. The gun scene is basically him seeing a couple seconds into the future. Then it turns out the entire thing was one long vision when he flashes back to the start of the movie at the end. Which honestly confuses me.

I'd probably go the Highlander route. I want to see other planets and stuff, what kind of crazy shit the distant future holds.

True, but again with NZT that's also possible. You could simply figure out how to progress the cloning process to where it works on humans. In the show they already had a group of scientists(normal people) who found a way to encode personality, memories, feelings, etc... into a cyber brain. Or figure out how to take the DNA from the jellyfish that is immortal because it regresses it's age when it's about to die and just modify that so you can alter your own age or something.