Which power would you choose and why?

Started by KingD197 pages

It's already proven speculation as he's never done anything near what you describe in the movie, or explained that his powers work like that.

Originally posted by KingD19
It's already proven speculation as he's never done anything near what you describe in the movie, or explained that his powers work like that.

He has done a many things exactly like what I said.
For example, he saw 2 minutes into the future to dodge a bullet.

Is it speculation that Spider-man can lift a go cart although he never did in a comic? Why? Is it because we can use logical proof to show that he can?

Basically, if something can be proven (logically or shown) then it's no longer speculation. I provided a complete proof already. If my proof is wrong then it could be speculation. But you must attack the proof (if it is wrong).

Note: Cage is never seeing into the future further than 2minutes. He's just reading a note that he wrote 2 minutes ahead. The note could be the truth or a lie. He really don't know what's going to happen because he never saw what happened (it was beyond his 2 minute window).
To claim that he can't read a note that he wrote 2 minutes ahead is saying that he can't see 2 minutes ahead.

In other words you can't prove that your speculation is true.

Originally posted by Silent Master
In other words you can't prove that your speculation is true.

In other words , there is no speculation due to the proof I gave.

Originally posted by h1a8
In other words , there is no speculation due to the proof I gave.

Proof is clips from the movie that back up your claims, you have posted zero.

All you do is speculate.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Proof is clips from the movie that back up your claims, you have posted zero.

All you do is speculate.

Proofs can be through clips or through deductive reasoning based off clips.

Speculation is something that neither clips nor deductive reasoning support.

Your opinion of proof is flawed since it can't be proven that Superman can lift a 5 ton steel safe since there is no clip showing it and we are not allowed to use deductive reasoning.

Your speculation isn't proof. post actual movie feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your speculation isn't proof. post actual movie feats.

There is no speculation. I posted the proof based off deductive reasoning. If the premises are true then the conclusion if necessarily true. So to attack the proof is to attack the premises. I can repost the proof if you like.

Post movie feats, not more speculation.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post movie feats, not more speculation.

Calling something speculation doesn't make it so.
If you feel it's speculation then show the flaw of the deductive reasoning. In other words, show which premises are flawed.

I don't have to prove your speculation wrong, you have to prove it's correct using movie feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't have to prove your speculation wrong, you have to prove it's correct using movie feats.
That's a false statement. I have to prove it's correct using deductive reasoning and OR movie feats.

Deductive reasoning doesn't work. Example. In Twilight, each vampire has a "mental" ability. Deductive reasoning would go along the lines of, each vampire has similar powers, because all vampires are basically the same.

But statement and feats show that each power varies wildly, from telepathy, to the ability to escape danger as long as you follow your instincts, to flat out elemental control.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's a false statement. I have to prove it's correct using deductive reasoning and OR movie feats.

No, all you've done is speculate.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, all you've done is speculate.

False, you don't understand a deductive proof. You don't even know what a deductive argument is.

I'd go with the Jumper's ability most likely. You can use it to effectively pull off feats of strength and instead of robbing banks as in the film I'd teleport into the holdings of drug dealers, etc, and rob 'em blind if we're just talking from a perspective of easy wealth. Seems like the most fun ability to have to me.

NZT would be pretty cool for the fact that you could become a master of the pursuits that you enjoy, but it's hard to pass up the kind of fun that you could have with teleportation. I think I'd get much more joy out of life being able to take my time with the things that I wanted to and being able to cut out all the travel time between destinations. You could live in multiple cities all over the world at the same time and instantly reach any of the, see rare events over and over by jumping, i.e., some crazy planetary alignment that's only visible for a limited amount of time, and amass wealth through any number of means from what I mentioned above to reaching basically inaccessible ruins and such to simply running your own crazy one-off transportation for very time-sensitive jobs.

My choice, anyway.

Jumping easily... as far as powers go id take any involving transportation.
Super speed, flight, etc.

Originally posted by h1a8
False, you don't understand a deductive proof. You don't even know what a deductive argument is.

Your speculation isn't proof.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your speculation isn't proof.
There's is no speculation.

All you have is speculation.

Not that it matters, NZT Is still the better choice.