Originally posted by KingD19
Iirc, for most of the movie he sees up to a maximum of 2 minutes. The gun scene is basically him seeing a couple seconds into the future. Then it turns out the entire thing was one long vision when he flashes back to the start of the movie at the end. Which honestly confuses me.
He could only see 2 minutes into the future, unless it dealt with Liz Cooper. IIRC this was actually stated near the start of the movie.
Originally posted by Silent Master
He could only see 2 minutes into the future, unless it dealt with Liz Cooper. IIRC this was actually stated near the start of the movie.
Ahhhh. I didn't remember much more than he could see into the future and he was a "magician". So no "infinite future vision" by whatever method hia8 said? Just 2 minutes max from where he is, so if it was 8:00pm, he could see to 8:02pm at most, and then flash back to 8:00pm correct?
Yeah, NZT is definitely the best choice.
Originally posted by KingD19
Ahhhh. I didn't remember much more than he could see into the future and he was a "magician". So no "infinite future vision" by whatever method hia8 said? Just 2 minutes max from where he is, so if it was 8:00pm, he could see to 8:02pm at most, and then flash back to 8:00pm correct?Yeah, NZT is definitely the best choice.
At 8:00 he can see his 8:02 self
His 7:58 self can see his 8:00 self.
He can continue to pass messages down the line.
For example, 8:02 self witnesses a bomb going off
8:00 sees the vision and jots it down in detail.
7:58 self sees the note being jotted down and copies it down
7:56 self sees the note being jotted down from 7:58 self and he then jolts it down.
This can go on until Cage has enough time to avoid the whole situation.
He's not seeing more than 2 minutes into the future but he also has the ability to send information back to his past selves.
Originally posted by h1a8
At 8:00 he can see his 8:02 self
His 7:58 self can see his 8:00 self.
He can continue to pass messages down the line.
For example, 8:02 self witnesses a bomb going off
8:00 sees the vision and jots it down in detail.
7:58 self sees the note being jotted down and copies it down
7:56 self sees the note being jotted down from 7:58 self and he then jolts it down.
This can go on until Cage has enough time to avoid the whole situation.He's not seeing more than 2 minutes into the future but he also has the ability to send information back to his past selves.
Posts feats from the movie where he does this.
Originally posted by Silent MasterYes I do.
IOW, you have no proof that his powers could be used in that manner.
If the ability couldn't be used that way then his 7:58 self wouldn't be able to see his 8:00 self writing down a note. But that would contradict the ability to view his future self entirely.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes I do.
Nicholas Cage can see his future self.If the ability couldn't be used that way then his 7:58 self wouldn't be able to see his 8:00 self writing down a note. But that would contradict the ability to view his future self entirely.
Post the feats that back up your interpretation of how his powers work.
Seeing his future self is fine, but your version of his powers is that he can jump infinitely into the future, but only at 2 minute intervals. And then work his way back to zero to put everything into motion. Not that he can only jump 2 minutes into the future unless Liz(or whoever you love in this case) is involved.
Originally posted by Silent MasterI can play the trolling ignoring what someone said too. I explained how the powers work. I even did a proof (by contradiction) that they work like that.
Post the feats that back up your interpretation of how his powers work.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes I do.
Nicholas Cage can see his future self.If the ability couldn't be used that way then his 7:58 self wouldn't be able to see his 8:00 self writing down a note. But that would contradict the ability to view his future self entirely.
Originally posted by marwash22Agreed with this. He had the most versatile teleportation powers I've ever seen. I'd pick his in an instant.
nzt is the easy, and perhaps the obvious answer, but i'd choose "jumping".to me, that's ultimate freedom. I don't feel the need to be a super genius. I'd pull off one giant heist and live the rest of my life hopping all around the world.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You explained how you wanted his powers to work, now try posting feats from the movie that will back it up.
That's the way his powers work. He wakes up at 7:00am. His 7:00am self can't see the event the 8:02 pm self sees.Because he only has a 2 minute window. But his 7:00am self can see what his 7:02am self writes on a notepad. His 7:02 self can see what his 7:04 self writes.
... His 7:58pm self sees what his 8:00pm self writes.
His 8:00pm self sees the bomb explodes on his 8:02pm self and then decides to write a note.
The note reads, "A bomb explodes on me at 8:02pm while I'm at Tom's dinner. Copy this note now, including the following sentence. If it is 7:00am then don't copy this note."
Originally posted by KingD19He cant see infinitely into the future. Each version of himself can only see up to 2 minutes into the future. But he can pass information to himself future than 2 minutes. Passing information is not the same thing as seeing further into the future.
Seeing his future self is fine, but your version of his powers is that he can jump infinitely into the future, but only at 2 minute intervals. And then work his way back to zero to put everything into motion. Not that he can only jump 2 minutes into the future unless Liz(or whoever you love in this case) is involved.
And this trick only works to the time he wakes up from his nightly sleep.
Originally posted by h1a8
That's the way his powers work. He wakes up at 7:00am. His 7:00am self can't see the event the 8:02 pm self sees.Because he only has a 2 minute window. But his 7:00am self can see what his 7:02am self writes on a notepad. His 7:02 self can see what his 7:04 self writes.
... His 7:58pm self sees what his 8:00pm self writes.
His 8:00pm self sees the bomb explodes on his 8:02pm self and then decides to write a note.The note reads, "A bomb explodes on me at 8:02pm while I'm at Tom's dinner. Copy this note now, including the following sentence. If it is 7:00am then don't copy this note."
No, that's how you want his powers to work. if it was how his powers actually worked, you would be able to post feats.