sex scene in matrix reloaded

Passion. I see what you mean.

Actually now I have had time to think about it...I have changed my mind. I don't like it at all.

Here's my theory...

First...the sex scene served one purpose: To build up the idea that Neo REALLY loves Trinity... They are CLOSE. That is to set up for the final decision that Neo is faced with. It is WHY the choice has already been made, he just needs to understand it...

And the rest of the party scene, well, I think that was to convey a message, too. I just think it went over most people's heads. You have to realize more in order to understand it. You have to see it in light of the end to understand this part...

Here are all the people in Zion, complacently basking in hedonism. It's no "zion" at all. That is YET ANOTHER hint that the city of Zion isn't what it is made out to be. But to understand that, you would have to know a thing or two about the 'mythological' zion. So if this "zion" is nothing like the mythical "zion" then perhaps this "real world" is not really the real world...

But that is a topic for another thread dedicated to the subject. 🙂

I maintain my disgust at having a scene like that just to demonstrate their alleged love for each other. Just because two people do the deed does not mean they truly are in love. It is a more physical thing these days I am afraid. So I must disagree.

I think the fact that it only showed their faces, makes it beautiful, not disgusting.
Yeah, it did go on for a bit too long, but it still needed to be there.

This is getting absurd. Does the scene show anything more than their faces or not? Either way it does not matter as I am not interested in seeing the movies one bit. To each his(or her) own.

i agree gord...it doesnt take sex to prove love now is it? these days it's all about the physical...so what the brothers are saying is having sex with a whore automatically means you're in love with her?

h ha ha........

Originally posted by GordonSkywalker
This is getting absurd. Does the scene show anything more than their faces or not? Either way it does not matter as I am not interested in seeing the movies one bit. To each his(or her) own.

Anyways, it has to be said that the orgasm-cake was the best part of the film. fabulous!

Now that is disgusting.

Originally posted by alaba
i agree gord...it doesnt take sex to prove love...

why is it sickening?

Think about what you just said in an earlier post and I am sure it will come to you mah.

no. sex is a natural thing, I fail to see the sickening part of it.

There is far more to a relationship and loving some one than doing the deed. I am so sorry you do not understand this simple fact. Movies like these twist us into thinking sex is the most important aspect in a relationship. That is an incorrect assumption.

But the sex scene is not the only relationship scene concerning them. The movie also shows Neo getting upset when he dreams of Trinity's death. It shows him choosing to save Trinity, rather than Zion. And there are other references about their relationship. The scene is also shown with the rave scene. Neo and Trinity are alone, not part of the crowd. Sending a message of monogamy and commitment, as opposed to what is going on a the party.

Then, there is also the who savior, messiah, god, "One" theme. Their union under an arch is a traditional sign of divinity. From corporatemofo.com/stories/051803matrix.htm - add a www to the front:

>Neo and Trinity are shown making love beneath an arch. In religious
>iconography, being shown beneath an arch is a traditional sign of
>divinity. Masaccio's fresco at the right, for instance, shows the Holy
>Trinity beneath an arch.

>Neo and Trinity's kissy-face is cut in with the public-lewdness-in-a-
>cave of the decieved Zionites. The real meaning of the overlong rave
>scene is to contrast sacred and profane love.

The reason these movies are so good is that the work on so many levels action, romance, religion, philosophy, etc.

the programed cake was about orgasm? i thought it meant she farted...

Doesn't matter guys, even if there was just the two of them it still doesn't make it right. Two people should be able to love ach other without the physical taking over the entire relationship.

But to try and REMOVE the physical from the importance of a relationship is as flawed as thinking it is the only important thing.

The scene was perfectly valid in its own right.

I liked that scene. In fact that one and the multiple Smith were the only two I liked. The dance was cool... The only thing that was disgusting was that black dots on Neo's and Trinity's bodies... *sigh*

And IMO you have to have sex with somebody before you say you're in love... 😎 IMO, always.
But again, what do I know, I'm only 16 years old... 🙄