Yoda's TK - not that incredible afterall.
The 2003 clone wars feat was retconned by the Jedi Path stating that Yoda couldn't lift more than 5 muntuur stones, this is supported by the foggy window theory and the convictions of George Lucas - G-canon.
Impressive! While size matters not, only five can I lift since I passed 700.
So basically, Yoda is not some telekinetic powerhouse like many assume... thoughts?
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
The text indicates that Yoda's TK abilty has declined with age Tempest, but somehow you think that an even older does better? Laughable.
That's your interpretation of the text. And quite a clumsy one at that. It may have been that the return of the Sith prompted Yoda to hone his abilities again. Regardless, you've failed to prove the retcon. You've failed, my son. Per usual.
Originally posted by Nephthys
You saying that isn't one either, nor is it an explanation for the how on earth your argument makes the slightest bit of sense.
Ziggy claimed the Clone Wars microseries was retconned by The Jedi Path. He's wrong.
Though I'm not obligated to provide an explanation, I generously offered one anyway: that in the century between Yoda's remarks and the feats in question, he underwent a significant boost in his powers.
Whether or not you find that plausible is irrelevant. Ziggy's wrong.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
[B]That's your interpretation of the text. And quite a clumsy one at that.
It's the most logical interpretation Tempest, Yoda says he can't lift more than 5 stones since he passed 700, why would he mention age if it hadn't been a declining factor? So he likely grows even weaker with an extra 200 years on his clock, something not entirely unsupported by feats, given that he needed to deactivate his lightsaber just to lift a small column of metal:
Originally posted by Ziggystardust
It's the most logical interpretation Tempest,
Clearly not, Ziggy, since Yoda telekinetically manipulates far greater mass and weight in the century after he wrote those comments:
You've yet to demonstrate a retcon. You should consider actually doing so in your next post, or I'm afraid I'll have to accept your concession.
And remember: you've dedicated your entire career at KMC to lowballing PT characters. You had one job, Ziggy. Just one. And yet...
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Ziggy claimed the Clone Wars microseries was retconned by The Jedi Path. He's wrong.Though I'm not obligated to provide an explanation, I generously offered one anyway: that in the century between Yoda's remarks and the feats in question, he underwent a significant boost in his powers.
Whether or not you find that plausible is irrelevant. Ziggy's wrong.
Nobody claimed you were obligated to do anything. If your explanation is terrible, you don't have to support it. It doesn't cease to be terrible, however. Yoda indicates that he decreased in power as he ages, not improved. Theres nothing stating that the latter is what occurred. Further, the idea that he improved that dramatically so late in his life is absurd, and you know it to be so. Which is why you're dodging the point instead of substantiating how it could possible have occurred.