What has B13 done that would show him able to overwhelm this group?
http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57845/1459385-the_engine.jpg
1. http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/brainiac1.jpg
2. http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/brainiac2.jpg
No opinion on the match, but pretty sure this is his greatest feat. I do hope GE and the cancer verse returns. There was a lot of potential there
Originally posted by TheHulkster
What has B13 done that would show him able to overwhelm this group?http://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/57845/1459385-the_engine.jpg
A universal abstract (Death) casually owned entire Cancerverse. A universal abstract (Kismet) nearly died just rupturing Imperiex's armor who was a peer to B13.
That is a shitty showing for Galactus and Celestials than anything else.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus Engine was directly stated to be less powerful than Shuma Gorath and a bunch of Elder Gods.A universal abstract (Death) casually owned entire Cancerverse. A universal abstract (Kismet) nearly died just rupturing Imperiex's armor who was a peer to B13.
That is a shitty showing for Galactus and Celestials than anything else.
Death kills Lord Mar-vell and his death triggers the collapse of the Cancerverse. Kismet hides in fear from a being whom Superman defeats.
Eliminating far reaching ABC logic, Braniac 13 would not even remotely be able to stand up to what the Galactus Engine stands up to.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus Engine was directly stated to be less powerful than Shuma Gorath and a bunch of Elder Gods.A universal abstract (Death) casually owned entire Cancerverse. A universal abstract (Kismet) nearly died just rupturing Imperiex's armor who was a peer to B13.
That is a shitty showing for Galactus and Celestials than anything else.
Wasn't B 13 going to remake the universe?
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Death kills Lord Mar-vell and his death triggers the collapse of the Cancerverse.
Nope, she blasted the shit out of MAOs as shown in Bendis AA .
Kismet hides in fear from a being whom Superman defeats.
Dominus? He was a reality warper who was caught in his own warp. Dude literally created a multiverse out of nothingness.
Eliminating far reaching ABC logic, Braniac 13 would not even remotely be able to stand up to what the Galactus Engine stands up to.
Of course he would. Celestials aren't worth shit these days and Galactus is the quintessential jobber.
All it shows that Galactus and Celestials are right around skyfather level and below Elder Gods like Shuma Gorath.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, she blasted the shit out of MAOs as shown in Bendis AA .Dominus? He was a reality warper who was caught in his own warp. Dude literally created a multiverse out of nothingness.
Of course he would. Celestials aren't worth shit these days and Galactus is the quintessential jobber.
All it shows that Galactus and Celestials are right around skyfather level and below Elder Gods like Shuma Gorath.
Which issue of AA do you refer?
Dominus never creates a multiverse. He manipulates multiple timelines involving Superman.
We just see Galactus punch out Order and Chaos.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
We just see Galactus punch out Order and Chaos.
Please don't try to pass off Lifebringer Galactus and the Galactus that stood against the engine as one and the same 😬
Originally posted by TheHulkster
He plans to use Imperiex's energy for something like that (possibly to rule). He apparently needs that energy for that purpose.
He doesn't plan to -- he did it. He remade the universe in his image.
How this goes depends on whether we're using B13 who already has Imperiex's energies (stomp) or not (highly debatable). Also depends on whether there are any limitations on prep...
Originally posted by Cogito
Please don't try to pass off Lifebringer Galactus and the Galactus that stood against the engine as one and the same 😬He doesn't plan to -- he did it. He remade the universe in his image.
How this goes depends on whether we're using B13 who already has Imperiex's energies (stomp) or not (highly debatable). Also depends on whether there are any limitations on prep...
So we are to pass the Galactus and the Celestials that stand against the engine as Skyfather level? I mean honestly, we are pitting Braniac 13 against an entity that is seemingly beating the combination of dozens of Celestials along with Galactus and two of his near equals. The thought that Brainiac beats that seems incredibly irrational. Saying that he beats Galactus alone can be argued just fine, but now we step into the ridiculous. 😬
There has been no statement regarding Lifebringer Galactus being more powerful. This is assumed based on his performance against Order and Chaos and how there is a feeling of them being surprised. But what is happening now is picking and choosing of power based on how the choice affects the argument. So Galactus and the Celestials are declared Skyfather level for the sake of lowballing The Galactus Engine, and Lifebringer Galactus is declared more powerful in order to further this lowballing. If Brainiac is shown beating them the same way, they would be declared as powerful as ever by the same folks treating them as Skyfather level now.
So now, Sun-dipped Superman is more powerful than the combination of dozens of Celestials and three Galactus level beings? Really? Brainiac gets stomped. With Imperiex's energy, he is beaten convincingly.
Regarding the universe he reshapes, are you talking about the big bang at the beginning of time?
I believe Lifebringer is definitely more powerful than standard 616 Galactus was.
First off, he now possesses "boundless" energy:
http://i.imgur.com/nUIJnAZ.jpg
*Galactus obviously NEVER possessed boundless power -- that's why he needed to constantly feed.
Secondly, Chaos and Order's reasoning for being able to "bring him to heel"(ie. forcibly make Lifebringer revert back into Galactus) is because "they were always his superiors in the cosmic hierarchy":
http://i.imgur.com/eKtQyMD.jpg
We also saw the same fact illustrated here:
http://i.imgur.com/84uEL2e.jpg
IOW, Order/Chaos were more powerful than Galactus -- which is why they were initially so confident when they confronted Lifebringer.
That said, we saw how easily Lifebringer was able to handle the duo:
http://i.imgur.com/sXkpuMy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oaWaUdg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZKxUwIn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mL56g8F.jpg
This indicates a substantial upgrade. Of course *some* will disagree for no logical reason, but the evidence is clear... So I'm not going to indulge that nonsense. 🙂
Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus Engine was directly stated to be less powerful than Shuma Gorath and a bunch of Elder Gods.
Unless there's some actual depiction that suggests this thought to be a possibility.
Originally posted by abhilegendAll it shows that
Galactus and Celestials are right around skyfather level
and below Elder Gods like Shuma Gorath.
Originally posted by Galan007
I believe Lifebringer is definitely more powerful than standard 616 Galactus was.First off, he now possesses "boundless" energy:
http://i.imgur.com/nUIJnAZ.jpg
*Galactus obviously NEVER possessed boundless power -- that's why he needed to constantly feed.Secondly, Chaos and Order's reasoning for being able to "bring him to heel"(ie. forcibly make Lifebringer revert back into Galactus) is because "they were always his superiors in the cosmic hierarchy":
http://i.imgur.com/eKtQyMD.jpgWe also saw the same fact illustrated here:
http://i.imgur.com/84uEL2e.jpg
IOW, Order/Chaos were more powerful than Galactus -- which is why they were initially so confident when they confronted Lifebringer.That said, we saw how easily Lifebringer was able to handle the duo:
http://i.imgur.com/sXkpuMy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oaWaUdg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZKxUwIn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mL56g8F.jpgThis indicates a substantial upgrade. Of course *some* will disagree for no logical reason, but the evidence is clear... So I'm not going to indulge that nonsense. 🙂
Who do you see winning here?
BTW, did Lord Chaos/Master Order just barf on Galactus? 😂
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Which issue of AA do you refer?
The same where Thanos gets his shit kicked in.
Dominus never creates a multiverse. He manipulates multiple timelines involving Superman.
Creates entire multiverse for Superman to experience.
http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/34j2mh4.jpg
Waverider confirms that the realities were actual.
http://i55.tinypic.com/5our10.jpg
We just see Galactus punch out Order and Chaos.
Amped Galactus beats Two featless abstracts? Am I supposed to be impressed?
