Originally posted by TheHulkster
So we are to pass the Galactus and the Celestials that stand against the engine as Skyfather level? I mean honestly, we are pitting Braniac 13 against an entity that is seemingly beating the combination of dozens of Celestials along with Galactus and two of his near equals. The thought that Brainiac beats that seems incredibly irrational. Saying that he beats Galactus alone can be argued just fine, but now we step into the ridiculous. 😬There has been no statement regarding Lifebringer Galactus being more powerful. This is assumed based on his performance against Order and Chaos and how there is a feeling of them being surprised. But what is happening now is picking and choosing of power based on how the choice affects the argument. So Galactus and the Celestials are declared Skyfather level for the sake of lowballing The Galactus Engine, and Lifebringer Galactus is declared more powerful in order to further this lowballing. If Brainiac is shown beating them the same way, they would be declared as powerful as ever by the same folks treating them as Skyfather level now.
So now, Sun-dipped Superman is more powerful than the combination of dozens of Celestials and three Galactus level beings? Really? Brainiac gets stomped. With Imperiex's energy, he is beaten convincingly.
Regarding the universe he reshapes, are you talking about the big bang at the beginning of time?
B13 ****ing stomps here. Unless you think Shuma Gorath is universal level abstract or something.
It also appeared as though BB destroyed one of the MAOs while drifting in the Fault:
http://i.imgur.com/bG5au7f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/le2VyGs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mahqQaA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VpTEJ5t.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegend
The same where Thanos gets his shit kicked in.Creates entire multiverse for Superman to experience.
http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/34j2mh4.jpgWaverider confirms that the realities were actual.
http://i55.tinypic.com/5our10.jpg
Amped Galactus beats Two featless abstracts? Am I supposed to be impressed?
Can you provide the scan where Death is shown in that issue?
Wave rider confirms this to be a web of possible timelines. That confirms that Dominus manipulates timelines. That is all he is ever shown to do in that arc and the manipulated timelines affect Superman only.
Originally posted by abhilegend
All I see is a lot of whining about how Galactus and Celestials are so much powerful when marvel itself shows that they are skyfather level.B13 ****ing stomps here. Unless you think Shuma Gorath is universal level abstract or something.
You mean an image drawn by Starlin in one of his books? That's detailed official right? 🙄 😆
An Imperiex Prime enhanced Braniac is helpless agains SD Superman. Braniac gets mud stomped.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Can you provide the scan where Death is shown in that issue?
MAOs were shown alive and incapacitated. The Cancerverse was shown intact as well.
Wave rider confirms this to be a web of possible timelines. That confirms that Dominus manipulates timelines. That is all he is ever shown to do in that arc and the manipulated timelines affect Superman only.
facepalm
Dominus outright says he is giving Superman an experience of Infinite multiverse and then Waverider flat out says that those were alternate realities superman was experiencing.
Nothing else need to be explained.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
You mean an image drawn by Starlin in one of his books? That's detailed official right? 🙄 😆An Imperiex Prime enhanced Braniac is helpless agains SD Superman. Braniac gets mud stomped.
Yes, of course its official.
And Superman in a less powerful state under the same writer would have destroyed Worloggog (a legit multiversal artifact) in one attack.
He was basically a plot device in sundipped state.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😐Yes, of course its official.
And Superman in a less powerful state under the same writer would have destroyed Worloggog (a legit multiversal artifact) in one attack.
He was basically a plot device in sundipped state.
It's an image that doesn't give any comparisons power wise. Superman is more powerful than Braniac 13.
Originally posted by abhilegend
The same where Thanos gets his shit kicked in.Creates entire multiverse for Superman to experience.
http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/33lcgt5.jpg
http://i55.tinypic.com/34j2mh4.jpgWaverider confirms that the realities were actual.
http://i55.tinypic.com/5our10.jpg
Amped Galactus beats Two featless abstracts? Am I supposed to be impressed?
Yeah, what did they actually do feat wise? I mean they barfed on Galactus. 😂
Originally posted by TheHulkster
You said:"Nope, she blasted the shit out of MAOs as shown in Bendis AA."
Yes, and they were still alive as opposed to be dead you said after TI.
Where is this shown?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZgxegS3Qmfw/UxQOdMsCKaI/AAAAAAABBiI/ouWhWnMCad4/s1600/p8_8.jpg
And of course, Bendis was ripped by fans for totally contradicting what was shown in TI. Bendis does that, which is why you love to reference him.
He didn't contradict anything. The same is shown again in GOTG and expanded as Mar-vell was resurrected again by the power of Cancerverse.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
And where did that occur? It's a meaningless hyperbole with nothing to prove it.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12825840/t2.jpg.html
Considering they killed and empowered the Galactus Engine, I find that amusing.
BTW, under the same writer a single CCU enslaved hundreds of Celestials.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111223216/4870039-celestial+engine.png
And even then, they needed to combine the power of the dying sun to stop the Fault to a pocket universe.
😂
Originally posted by abhilegend
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12825840/t2.jpg.htmlConsidering they killed and empowered the Galactus Engine, I find that amusing.
Where do they kill the Galactus Engine? It collapses along with the rest of the fault. How is Medusa any expert? It is, as you say, meaningless hyperbole.
Originally posted by Galan007
It also appeared as though BB destroyed one of the MAOs while drifting in the Fault:
http://i.imgur.com/bG5au7f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/le2VyGs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mahqQaA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/VpTEJ5t.jpg
Why is that relevant? What Medusa says is, as Abhi puts it, meaningless hyperbole. And it shows how powerful BB is and is consistent with him being feared by Vortex.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where do they kill the Galactus Engine? It collapses along with the rest of the fault. How is Medusa any expert? It is, as you say, meaningless hyperbole.
That alone should tell you who was more powerful.
But yeah, the agent was more powerful than the masters who actually killed it in the first place and have been directly stated to be more powerful.
Because that makes perfect sense. Somehow.