Brainiac 13 Vs The Galactus Engine

Originally posted by Cogito
[B]Of course not, they never went through the breach because Galactus held off the Engine long enough for Thanos to bring Death back to the Cancerverse.

What are you getting at?

I was thinking as if they were among the ones who made it through, and were being engaged by the defending forces, none of which were even remotely as big. But there being unseen entities that never make it through before the fault collapses makes more sense and fits more with what she says. So I stand corrected. Thanks!

Originally posted by deathslash
they fought thanos with the infinity gauntlet and lost (but so did mephisto, the celestials, hate and love, and ego, so that isn't really a low end feat), and they also created the in-betweener (who is capable of fighting Galactus). IYO, would that change the outcome of this fight?

Not very impressive battle feats.

Originally posted by Cogito
Absolutely. B13 with Imperiex's energies remade the universe in his computerized image. That is >>> GE

Is this a follow-up to the end up WWIII showing the universe created by being boom tubed to the big bang?

Originally posted by Cogito
Of course not, they never went through the breach because Galactus held off the Engine long enough for Thanos to bring Death back to the Cancerverse.

What are you getting at?

Absolutely. B13 with Imperiex's energies remade the universe in his computerized image. That is >>> GE

B13 could probably take over the GE.

Galactus Engine.

Originally posted by Glorificus
Galactus Engine.

Originally posted by abhilegend

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12825840/t2.jpg.html

Originally posted by abhilegend

Hyperbole

Originally posted by abhilegend

BTW, under the same writer a single CCU enslaved hundreds of Celestials.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111223216/4870039-celestial+engine.png

A single CCU became Eternity

A single CCU gave every hero and villain Godhood plus a private universe each to enjoy.

A single CCU imploded the entire Omniverse, then rebuilt it with a thought.

etc, etc etc ...

Originally posted by abhilegend
BTW, under the same writer a single CCU enslaved hundreds of Celestials.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111223216/4870039-celestial+engine.png

And even then, they needed to combine the power of the dying sun to stop the Fault to a pocket universe.

😂

The amazing thing about this is that this occurs in an alternate future and you are the same guy who is first in line to discount a feat from an alternate future when it suits you. And no one has yet to to inform you that "it doesn't work like that bud".

Originally posted by Glorificus
Galactus Engine.

How?

Originally posted by Zack M
How?

Much more powerful.

On a side note, Medusa doesn't describe the MAOs as being bigger and more powerful. She states that bigger and more powerful entities are following the Galactus Engine. Those entities never have a chance to enter the fault before the Cancerverse collapses, thus are never shown on panel. So we don't know what they are or how they look.

I wouldn't say much more powerful.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's interesting. I present an on panel statement where Galactus flat out says that Diableri endeavors to reshape the universe in his image and would have succeeded had not Galactus killed him and imprisoned Aegis and Tenebrous by his own hands.

Because there wasn't anybody to oppose him. Neither Tenebrous nor Aegis anywhere showed power enough to affect a solar system much less the ****ing universe.

Abhi calls it hyperbole and you have no comment on that. Such blatant hypocrisy borders on trolling so let me ask you this question. Did Galactus defeat a being who would have reshaped the universe in his image?

No. A statement from Galactus doesn't makes you universal.

Do we actually see any beings larger than the Galactus Engine? No. Medusa actually doesn't say that anything is larger or more powerful than the Galactus Engine. She says that larger and more powerful "entities" are following behind the assault vanguard. That appears to be a general statement of what is coming out, especially when she had just stated that the GE is the most monstrous threat of all. An "entity" is something that exists independently. The Galactus engine is a machine; a weapon created and controlled by sentient entities that Medusa refers to as "it".

Haha, seriously?

There is enough doubt to that which you assert based on nitpicking a couple of words to not change what is shown in the big picture. We see a monstrously sized threat engaging dozens of celestials along with Galactus, Tenebrous and Aegis in a way that lower beings are unable to comprehend.

Yes, skyfather fights. Odin and Galactus' fight happened the same way.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
But you just lowballed Lord Chaos and Master Order and said that Galactus beating them is unimpressive.

And Lord Chaos and Master order are entirely featless except creating In Betweener.

Originally posted by Cogito
Of course not, they never went through the breach because Galactus held off the Engine long enough for Thanos to bring Death back to the Cancerverse.

What are you getting at?

Absolutely. B13 with Imperiex's energies remade the universe in his computerized image. That is >>> GE

He was also shredding through DCU timeline without any effort.

Heck, his name was Ravager of Timelines. A step or two above Ravager of Worlds.

Originally posted by Mr Master
😐

A single CCU became Eternity

So around Kismet level give or take? Good.

A single CCU gave every hero and villain Godhood plus a private universe each to enjoy.

Alternate universe? Cool. Its almost Mordru level then.

A single CCU imploded the entire Omniverse, then rebuilt it with a thought.

Non canon crossover.

etc, etc etc ...

Yes, CCU makes you universal and it has owned hundreds of Celestials. Good to know.

👆

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The amazing thing about this is that this occurs in an alternate future and you are the same guy who is first in line to discount a feat from an alternate future when it suits you. And no one has yet to to inform you that "it doesn't work like that bud".

😂

Originally posted by TheHulkster
On a side note, Medusa doesn't describe the MAOs as being bigger and more powerful. She states that bigger and more powerful entities are following the Galactus Engine. Those entities never have a chance to enter the fault before the Cancerverse collapses, thus are never shown on panel. So we don't know what they are or how they look.

The entire story was centered around Mar-Vell prepping 616 for his "masters"(the MAOs) to overtake it. They were literally the only beings Medusa could have been referring to.

Additionally, after Marv summoned one of the MAOs against Thanos, it was explicitly stated that "some kind of energy source just went off the scales in the Cancerverse"... And that statement came from a being who had been monitoring the battle against the GE.

Suffice to say: MAOs > GE. It's right there on panel... Don't be willfully obtuse. There are already enough trolls here. srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
You can't be serious. none

The entire story was centered around Mar-Vell prepping 616 for his "masters"(the MAOs) to overtake it. They were literally the only beings Medusa could have been referring to.

Additionally, after Marv summoned one of the MAOs against Thanos, it was explicitly stated that "some kind of energy source just went off the scales in the Cancerverse"... And that statement came from a being who had been monitoring the battle against the GE.

Suffice to say: MAOs > GE. It's right there on panel... Don't be willfully obtuse. There are already enough trolls here. srsly

That's nonsense. The energy spike coincides with Mar-Vell shoving the sword into Thanos during the necropsy ritual. The MOA that grabs Thanos is present the issue before. Why would the spike not be noticed then if it is the source? What did you believe the spike comes from?

Gladiator, Surfer and the other Anihilators are battling MOAs who have left the Cancerverse and entered 616 all the way from issue one, so clearly Medusa is referring to subsequent war making entities that are meant to follow-up the GA's attack, but never get the chance to enter the fault and are never seen by the readers. Show an instant where an entity is shown larger than the GE.

You can't just make things up. It doesn't work that way.

Ah, so you are trolling just to troll.

Well have fun with that. No reason for me to indulge such childish behavior any further. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Ah, so you are trolling just to troll.

Well have fun with that. No reason for me to indulge such childish behavior any further. 👆

That's a non-reply. I have given you details and you cry "troll" repeatedly. If I'm a troll the chips will fall where they may without your need to try and convince the world to share your childish projections and hypocrisies. Debate the details and keep the ad hominems out.

Who were these other entities which were never mentioned before or after, separate from MAOs?