Ahsoka Tano vs Darth Malgus

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
The counter to choking the protags as a relevant feat is the fact if he could do it at will, he'd have won that battle but since he lost, his force edge wasn't decisive. But yes, it does show, albeit in an abstract way, that he's powerful, but that is kinda obvious already.

His feat is equivalent as if he could sustain 10k-15k tons of matter with tk against 1G gravity, in a very (I'd say extremely, since I used all the lowest numbers for my variables) conservative estimate. I'll need to do some calculations on Vader's cathedral feat, because this feat has the potential to surpass that.

While it wasn't decisive over the entire team, and I've never claimed it to be so, it still stands as an example of him having a decisive edge over the individual members of that team. It doesn't merely show that he's powerful, it shows that he's powerful enough to ragdoll the Barsen'thor who was crumpling massive blast doors far from her prime, or Nox who is empowered by 5 force ghosts and clowned Thanaton, or the Wrath who defeated a dark side god and several Dark Council members.

Cool.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Certainly less people believe in it now, lol. But if you still have a case, let's hear it.

You've already heard it. It's a scripted event that the developers intended to happen in the fight and as such is not merely a gameplay mechanic. The games narration says that it occurs.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Oh, please. He has the guys of substance in helpless Choke-holds, but decides to play tag with the last guy (and fails) instead of plunging his saber into their hapless bodies?

Not to mention that if you come in with three people, he only Chokes two, and if you come in with two people, he only Chokes one. Seems like the number of enemies he can Choke is equal to the number of enemies he's fighting minus one. In which case, it's zero here 😂

There's no indication he had the "guys of substance" in force chokes and I doubt he would have chosen to do anything. The remaining member was merely good enough that Malgus couldn't have finished off the held ones and was forced to fight them instead of doing that.

That much is a gameplay mechanic. But the fact remains that he can perform the feat at it's best capacity, so we can accept the feat at that point. Besides, I think that it is canon that the Republic or Empire sent teams of their greatest champions to stop him.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
He needs feats yeah.

Like Ahsoka needs feats suggesting she doesn't immediately get downed by his lightning?

It is hypocritical to suggest that Malgus needs better feats than those he already has when Ahsoka has almost none of her own to suggest she can compete in the Force.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It is hypocritical to suggest that Malgus needs better feats than those he already has when Ahsoka has almost none of her own to suggest she can compete in the Force.

I don't think anyone disagrees that Ahsoka would lose a Force contest, but no, Malgus has no feats that suggest he can down a Force user of Ahsoka's calibre immediately with his lighting, lmao.

Given Aryn Leneer was f*cked against Malgus' lightning, I'm not seeing how Tano does much better.

By being much better in every conceivable way. 🙂

Nah, not sure if Tana>Aryn in the Force, but she is atleast comparable. But Tano is skilled enough, to press Malgus so hard, that he propably can't use strong Lightning so easily. She also could dodge it.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
By being much better in every conceivable way. 🙂

Originally posted by Beniboybling
By being much better in every conceivable way. 🙂

Oh well then since you proved it so eloquently we should just take your word for it. After all, it's not like you'll continue inputting your personal hierarchy mid debate after being repeatedly out for it.👆

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Nah, not sure if Tana>Aryn in the Force, but she is atleast comparable. But Tano is skilled enough, to press Malgus so hard, that he propably can't use strong Lightning so easily. She also could dodge it.

On the other hand Tano's ability relative to other Force sensitives, i.e. knocking Maul on his ass in her teens, and challenging both him and Vader on a dark side hotspot in her prime strike me as much more impressive display of overall strength.

But yeah, Ahsoka is a much faster, agile and skilled combatant to boot.

When did she knock Maul on his ass as a teen?

When trying to downplay a character, always call his opponents fodder 👆

Nameless Jedi and Sith that get blitzed by anyone with a name, and that includes Jace Malcolm, are fodder yeah.

Wouldn't fodder in the context of Deceived performing similar feats to Kanan just suggest that Ahsoka is merely on par with Deceived Malgus/Aryn?

Suggesting FE Malgus would indeed own her?

Remind me who ahsoka faced on the level of malgus/vader with force lightning power enough to kill on impact? I'll take malgus' impressive victory over zallow and kao over anything ahsoka has done.

Still not sure what is so impressive about Kao :/
I can understand that you see him above Ashoka, because he won against Zallow, but what makes Winning over Kao better than Competing with Vader?

Originally posted by Ursumeles
Still not sure what is so impressive about Kao :/
I can understand that you see him above Ashoka, because he won against Zallow, but what makes Winning over Kao better than Competing with Vader?

Octogenerian, lmfao. He wasn't even 60.

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
The fact that kao was keeping malgus and vindican at bay singlehandedly. Add zallow in the mix and competing with vader doesn't mean much. Octogenarian obi wan was able to "compete" with vader.

And later he was fooderized by Malgus solo. Kao's showing is inconsistent as hell.

If he could genuinely fight the sith duo, there's no way his performance would suffer such dramatic degradadion vs Malgus just because he got tired.

Malgus seemed enraged, too.