Originally posted by SunRazerI'd like to see a source saying a terminator and a Metamucil spokesman were fighting superhumanly fast. Also, looks like disney employed that 70s technology during both lightsaber fights in tfa.
70's film tech, lmfao. The comic and novel versions have them fighting superhumanly fast, as should be.
Originally posted by NephthysLeneer isn't on the same level as Deceived Malgus, that's why she lost. 😬
Wouldn't fodder in the context of Deceived performing similar feats to Kanan just suggest that Ahsoka is merely on par with Deceived Malgus/Aryn?Suggesting FE Malgus would indeed own her?
Regardless you're confusing my point, my point was that within the contexts of the Deceived novel Leneer's feats to not do much to establish her in a holistic standing. Kanan's Canon showing exists in entirely different contexts, and relatively speaking is actually quite impressive.
On the other hand if we take both feats simply at face value, no, I don't really see the party between smashing statues and collapsing burnt-out buildings, to holding up tonnes of rubble (having not touched the Force in a decade and without evidence of strain.) Nor did Leneer (or Malgus) demonstrate as much superiority over the named individuals that Ahsoka has to Kanan, who realistically should be able to one-shot Kanan considering she did so to the even stronger Fifth Brother.
Originally posted by MS WarehouseForce lighting "power enough" to kill on impact? Is that supposed to be impressive? Lol.
Remind me who ahsoka faced on the level of malgus/vader with force lightning power enough to kill on impact? I'll take malgus' impressive victory over zallow and kao over anything ahsoka has done.
Remind me what proof there is that Malgus' lightning can overwhelm Ahsoka, because so far you've come up empty.
As for Zallow, he has nothing to substantiate himself bar dispatching fodder, and Malgus' victory over Darach came at the hands of himself and Vindican combined, fighting aggressively despite being outnumbered 2 to 1 evidently leaving him exhausted.
I've come up about as empty as you proving ahsoka can block lightning of malgus' caliber 😂
But i don't need to prove he can hit her since he's hit and killed pretty much everything he attempted. Nothing suggests ahsoka can block anything like that. I'll wait for proof but something tells me you'll try the last resort tactic of shifting the burden.
Also, way to misjudge the fight over korriban 👆
Originally posted by SunRazer
Yeah, probably the most convincing source. They just couldn't translate it to the screen.
Its been decades. And i genuinely follow the g canon version over the c canon. Just to confirm, you're talking about anh or tfa? I'd be interested to see if both have an excuse for some shitty swordsplay.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
I've come up about as empty as you proving ahsoka can block lightning of malgus' caliber 😂
But i don't need to prove he can hit her since he's hit and killed pretty much everything he attempted. Nothing suggests ahsoka can block anything like that. I'll wait for proof but something tells me you'll try the last resort tactic of shifting the burden.Also, way to misjudge the fight over korriban 👆
Why? Ahsoka is obviously better than Leener, who was enraged and fighting a Malgus that felt sympathy for her loss. If you read Deceived you'll see in their last battle Malgus subdued her with "casual(it's the exact word used in the novel)" effort with his lightning.
Originally posted by MS WarehouseNice, a no-limits fallacy, can it hit and kill Sidious too? Regardless you're wrong, it was capably absorbed by Leneer in their opening bout, only when empowered by the thought of his waifu did he power through her defences. And in FE he failed to kill anyone. 😂
I've come up about as empty as you proving ahsoka can block lightning of malgus' caliber 😂
But i don't need to prove he can hit her since he's hit and killed pretty much everything he attempted. Nothing suggests ahsoka can block anything like that. I'll wait for proof but something tells me you'll try the last resort tactic of shifting the burden.Also, way to misjudge the fight over korriban 👆
And thanks, I accept your concession.
Originally posted by TenebrousWayWhich proves my point. If he was able to do that, what would an enraged and even more powerful to do to someone that's probably more powerful than leneer?
Why? Ahsoka is obviously better than Leener, who was enraged and fighting a Malgus that felt sympathy for her loss. If you read Deceived you'll see in their last battle Malgus subdued her with "casual(it's the exact word used in the novel)" effort with his lightning.
Me thinks Leneer is being a tad bit underrated, she is a pretty good JK.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/thevivas/blog/aryn-leneer-respect-thread/102422/
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Nice, a no-limits fallacy, can it hit and kill Sidious too? Regardless your wrong, it was capably absorbed by Leneer in their opening bout, it was when empowered by the thought of his waifu that he was able to power through her defences. And in FE he failed to kill anyone. 😂And thanks, I accept your concession.
See above. The fact that you have to include gibberish and constantly insert your own hierarchy implies you conceded a while back and are just trying to save face. I'm replying to you only out of pity for your lack of self awareness in defeat. Looks like I'm 2 for 2 with you 😂
Originally posted by Zenwolf
Me thinks Leneer is being a tad bit underrated, she is a pretty good JK.http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/thevivas/blog/aryn-leneer-respect-thread/102422/
A little but a huge amount of rationalization is needed when you're on the losing side.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Which proves my point. If he was able to do that, what would an enraged and even more powerful to do to someone that's probably more powerful than leneer?
? The logically correct answer to that would be "inconclusive".
Using common sense, the idea that FE Malgus is stomping Ahsoka is ridiculous.
Originally posted by TenebrousWayWho said stomping? Using common sense, the only logical thing to conclude is that Malgus would win. If you want to argue levels of victory, we can do that later.
? The logically correct answer to that would be "inconclusive".Using common sense, the idea that FE Malgus is stomping Ahsoka is ridiculous.
Also, i wouldn't deem it inconclusive. A far less powerful malgus went easy on leneer. A far more powerful, enraged malgus shouldn't have much difficulty defeating someone who may be more powerful than leneer by a certain degree.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Who said stomping? Using common sense, the only logical thing to conclude is that Malgus would win. If you want to argue levels of victory, we can do that later.Also, i wouldn't deem it inconclusive. A far less powerful malgus went easy on leneer. A far more powerful, enraged malgus shouldn't have much difficulty defeating someone who may be more powerful than leneer by a certain degree.
It's inconclusive because we don't know how more powerful Ahsoka is than Aryn. Ahsoka should be close there with prime Vader in skills - which is far better than Aryn.