Originally posted by TenebrousWayIf that's your stance then would you consider malgus and vader near equals? If so, wouldn't Malgus be vader with deadly force lightning?
It's inconclusive because we don't know how more powerful Ahsoka is than Aryn. Ahsoka should be close there with prime Vader in skills - which is far better than Aryn.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Its been decades. And i genuinely follow the g canon version over the c canon. Just to confirm, you're talking about anh or tfa? I'd be interested to see if both have an excuse for some shitty swordsplay.
G-canon and C-canon are gone. There's only canon and non-canon now.
ANH fights were indeed depicted to be much faster in the comic, novel and script, which makes it blindingly obvious that it's only the limitations of film technology that make them fight "slow". And G-canon would be how Lucas wanted it to be, which would be Ben fighting at amazing speeds.
TFA, I believe, was because Rey and Kylo weren't as well-trained as other Jedi we've seen.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
If that's your stance then would you consider malgus and vader near equals? If so, wouldn't Malgus be vader with deadly force lightning?
Yes, I have Malgus and Vader close to each other mainly due to the fact Vader used Malgus' journal as an inspiration, which suggests Malgus' feats aren't trivial for Vader, otherwise it wouldn't make sense for Vader to try to inspire himself reading about feats that he could easily replicate. Plus, the tons of accolades from Sidious, who's extremely methodical and critical.
Deadly force lightning that Ahsoka is going to deflect? The probability Malgus is going to down someone so close to himself with lightning is very slim and supported by his performance vs the strike team.
Originally posted by MS WarehouseUh-huh. Nothing substantiates Leneer as even close to Ahsoka's level aside from assumptions about Malgus' abilities which the onus is you to prove, so a pretty shitty argument all in all.
See above. The fact that you have to include gibberish and constantly insert your own hierarchy implies you conceded a while back and are just trying to save face. I'm replying to you only out of pity for your lack of self awareness in defeat. Looks like I'm 2 for 2 with you 😂
As for you starting a tally, I'm flattered by your investment, but not sure what other debate it is you think you've won. mmm
Originally posted by TenebrousWayJust to point out that Vader was given that journal not long after the Clone Wars, when he was far from his prime, and has no bearing on Canon Vader regardless.
Yes, I have Malgus and Vader close to each other mainly due to the fact Vader used Malgus' journal as an inspiration, which suggests Malgus' feats aren't trivial for Vader, otherwise it wouldn't make sense for Vader to try to inspire himself reading about feats that he could easily replicate. Plus, the tons of accolades from Sidious, who's extremely methodical and critical.Deadly force lightning that Ahsoka is going to deflect? The probability Malgus is going to down someone so close to himself with lightning is very slim and supported by his performance vs the strike team.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Just to point out that Vader was given that journal not long after the Clone Wars, when he was far from his prime, and has no bearing on Canon Vader regardless.
I know and you are correct. I was just clarifying my position on Malgus' power. Being choosen by Sidious as the exemplary warrior, amidst thousands or hundreds of thousands of documented force sensitives in a 3,600 years span should support his position as a dangerous threat to Vader. There are still several others from much less illustrious individuals.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Uh-huh. Nothing substantiates Leneer as even close to Ahsoka's level aside from assumptions about Malgus' abilities which the onus is you to prove, so a pretty shitty argument all in all.As for you starting a tally, I'm flattered by your investment, but not sure what other debate it is you think you've won. mmm
The one in his head, obvie, puddin!
Uh-huh. Nothing substantiates Leneer as even close to Ahsoka's level aside from assumptions about Malgus' abilities which the onus is you to prove, so a pretty shitty argument all in all.
Yes, I have Malgus and Vader close to each other mainly due to the fact Vader used Malgus' journal as an inspiration, which suggests Malgus' feats aren't trivial for Vader, otherwise it wouldn't make sense for Vader to try to inspire himself reading about feats that he could easily replicate. Plus, the tons of accolades from Sidious, who's extremely methodical and critical.Deadly force lightning that Ahsoka is going to deflect? The probability Malgus is going to down someone so close to himself with lightning is very slim and supported by his performance vs the strike team.
G-canon and C-canon are gone. There's only canon and non-canon now.ANH fights were indeed depicted to be much faster in the comic, novel and script, which makes it blindingly obvious that it's only the limitations of film technology that make them fight "slow". And G-canon would be how Lucas wanted it to be, which would be Ben fighting at amazing speeds.
TFA, I believe, was because Rey and Kylo weren't as well-trained as other Jedi we've seen.
Finally, what do you mean Kylo isn't well trained? Isn't he a powerful dark jedi that was responsible for annihilating Luke's Jedi Academy? I also have a problem with the discrepancy in fighting styles over every movie.