Luke Skywalker runs the Ancient Sith Gauntlet

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
None of which you can name or legitimately apply to a versus fight 👆

I can name more than a few:

- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
- Insider 86: Yoda's Right Arm
- The New Essential Chronology
- Jedi Battles
- The Complete Visual Dictionary
- Legends Epic Collections: The Empire Volume 1

And countless other sources, all noting the same thing... Palpatine is the most powerful. And it's funny how you back an argument that applies an author's opinion to versus fights, but then you don't apply actual objective, canonical, LucasArts approved sources.

Cherry picking much? 😆

And it definitely applies since it means Sheev is canonically greater than Plagueis, who is greater than pre-SOR/TOR Vitiate who is greater than Novel!Vitiate, who is greater than Exar Kun, all as per objective, canonical sources. The gap between Exar and Sidious is simply large. 👆

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
None of which you can name or legitimately apply to a versus fight 👆

Wait, NovelVitate>Kun?

From what I recall, even at that point he's canonically greater than any Sith before him.

Originally posted by MythLord
I can name more than a few:

- The Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia
- Insider 86: Yoda's Right Arm
- The New Essential Chronology
- Jedi Battles
- The Complete Visual Dictionary
- Legends Epic Collections: The Empire Volume 1

And countless other sources, all noting the same thing... Palpatine is the most powerful. And it's funny how you back an argument that applies an author's opinion to versus fights, but then you don't apply actual objective, canonical, LucasArts approved sources.

Cherry picking much? 😆

And it definitely applies since it means Sheev is canonically greater than Plagueis, who is greater than pre-SOR/TOR Vitiate who is greater than Novel!Vitiate, who is greater than Exar Kun, all as per objective, canonical sources. The gap between Exar and Sidious is simply large. 👆

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/silver2467/blog/emperor-palpatinedarth-sidious-respect-thread/63101/
Read the power section.

"Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history."
--The New Essential Chronology

"Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting."

--The Complete Visual Dictionary

"When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Instead, Yoda faces the dark side's fury, channeled by the most powerful Sith Lord in history. "Rob Coleman wanted Yoda to feel the power of his enemy," says Wheless, "like a force he's never dealt with before.""

-- Insider #86: Yoda's Right Arm

"When the most powerful Jedi[Yoda] battled against the most powerful Sith[Sheev], the two sides of the Force clashed in spectacular style."

-- Jedi Battles

"The Emperor was completely in concert with the dark side of the Force. He was the most powerful Sith who had ever existed."

-- Death Star novel

"With the galaxy now ripe for conquest, the Emperor has become the most powerful Sith Lord of all and a master of the Dark Side of the Force, ordering the extermination of the Jedi Order with the aid of his apprentice, the deadly Darth Vader."

-- Legends Epic Collection: The Empire Volume 1

Originally posted by MythLord
"Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history."
--The New Essential Chronology

"Beyond the vision of the Jedi Knights, somewhere within the darkness, the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting."

--The Complete Visual Dictionary

"When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Instead, Yoda faces the dark side's fury, channeled by the most powerful Sith Lord in history. "Rob Coleman wanted Yoda to feel the power of his enemy," says Wheless, "like a force he's never dealt with before.""

-- Insider #86: Yoda's Right Arm

"When the most powerful Jedi[Yoda] battled against the most powerful Sith[Sheev], the two sides of the Force clashed in spectacular style."

-- Jedi Battles

"The Emperor was completely in concert with the dark side of the Force. He was the most powerful Sith who had ever existed."

-- Death Star novel

"With the galaxy now ripe for conquest, the Emperor has become the most powerful Sith Lord of all and a master of the Dark Side of the Force, ordering the extermination of the Jedi Order with the aid of his apprentice, the deadly Darth Vader."

-- Legends Epic Collection: The Empire Volume 1

And remind us how all of those quotes are somehow all encompassing.

Vitiate/Valkorion was the "embodiment of the dark side". Revan was the "heart of the force". So?

I mean the most powerful Sith in history, the most powerful master of all time, the greatest of all. All encompassing to any Sith before him. 👆

Valky being "the embodiment of the Dark Side" during his time and Revan being "the heart of the Force" from the POV of Traya still doesn't make them greater than someone canonical, objective sources place as the MVP of the Sith Lords.

"most powerful Sith Lord in history.""

Originally posted by MythLord
I mean the most powerful Sith in history, the most powerful master of all time, the greatest of all. All encompassing to any Sith before him. 👆

Sadly, Exar Kun was very much far more than a concept during that time. Actually, even Vitiate was by the time of Death Star, IIRC.

And if nothing contradicts the quotes, then they're still canon honey. 👆

Originally posted by MythLord
Sadly, Exar Kun was very much far more than a concept during that time. Actually, even Vitiate was by the time of Death Star, IIRC.

And if nothing contradicts the quotes, then they're still canon honey. 👆

Being the physical embodiment of the dark side pretty much makes you the most powerful of the most powerful, cupcake. Try again 😂

Vader, Vergere, Dooku, Luke and several other sources claimed Palpatine was also the embodiment of the Dark Side, more energy than flesh.

Try again, POS donut. 👆

Originally posted by MythLord
Vader, Vergere, Dooku, Luke and several other sources claimed Palpatine was also the embodiment of the Dark Side, more energy than flesh.

Try again, POS donut. 👆

Also; the SWTOR Encyclopedia which lends Vitiate that accolade is an in-universe source, as per the opening pages. Sheev's sources are out of universe.

Pretty sure there's an in-game codex that says it, but that's in-universe too.

Which essentially means everything compiled in the SWTOR:E is true because, well, someone said it/wrote it down/saw it, at some point, maybe.

In other words: Legends 😱

Pretty sure both the Encyclopedia and the codex have "classified" and "unknown" information at various points, and don't know the outcomes of some of the battles in the endgame time period.

Originally posted by MythLord
Vader, Vergere, Dooku, Luke and several other sources claimed Palpatine was also the embodiment of the Dark Side, more energy than flesh.

Try again, POS donut. 👆

That's cute what they "said". But this is a direct quote regarding Vitiate. Back to the drawing board for you 😂

Pretty sure both the Encyclopedia and the codex have "classified" and "unknown" information at various points, and don't know the outcomes of some of the battles in the endgame time period.