Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
He didn't even flinch when I accused him of it. A normal person would at least call me an @sshole for that. It could be Zoltan but he doesn't really put this much effort into his trolling. I also think beefy's out since we don't really interact that much.
I´ve not quoted you´re parts, which i don´t counter, to make it easier.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Dooku being pressed by Anakin's offensive doesn't indicate superiority in speed. Obi Wan was moving his blade at such velocities Dooku did not dare try to pierce his defense before he could regain his bearings. If your argument is based off of Dooku seeing Anakin's lightsaber as a blue haze I'll remind you that Force users do not fight with their physical perceptions in accelerated combat but through their senses in the Force.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
As I mention above Force users don't need to physically see an object to perceive it in the Force. Also, considering how Yoda faced 3 Council Members; Depa Billaba, Saesee Tiin and Plo Koon, unarmed, and defeated them as a demonstration for the padawans despite the group's best efforts.(...)There's no reason for anybody giving a demonstration to not full demonstrate their speed. In fact they might even move faster knowing it's just a spar and that they don't have to conserve their energies for prolonged battle. The Council of Olin's time was much the same as the Clone Wars council with only a few differences. Ferus Olin observes Vader before TFU. So technically Vader should be even faster.I didn't say that Vader was superior to Anakin simply that Anakin wasn't physically stronger then Vader.(...)
Neh, I still see Anakin as TFU Vaders physical superior. Galen is stronger than Dooku, tho, imo. But I´ll come to strenght later, again 😉
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Can you post the scan of Durge smashing Anakin through a steel floor please?
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Trebor was praised by Cin but it was in a moment where he was lecturing Grievous for his moves being too mechanical. We don't know what this would mean in regards to Cin's combative capabilities. Since Anakin has plenty of other solid feats it's simpler to scale him off of those. Also, the image I posted is from Legends though you did not specify that this was a Legends only debate. Regardless, I'm fine with those limitations.
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Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
If Anakin was indeed more powerful then Galen then yes, that would be the case. You'd need to prove that first however which you've yet to do.Nothing suggests Anakin is more powerful then Dooku in a normal state. He landed a push on Dooku. Ahsoka landed a push on Vader. Landing a push on someone does not make you their equal let alone their superior unless you're arguing Ahsoka > Vader as a Force user.
Makashi has no inherent advantage over Ataru and neither does Soresu over Djem So...
Not when you consider Anakin had superior physical strength, superior speed (note from Urs: he meant Agility) and superior endurance via greater force reserves.
Both Anakin and Vader have superior strength feats to Grievous. Not to mention Grievous's strikes are not going to pack as much kinetic Force as a single action like ripping out elevator doors or winding back a punch. I believe I mentioned as well that Anakin's strength didn't phase Dooku when he was employing another form.
Galen being able to handle Vader's strength is indicative of having superior physical strength to Dooku and being able to handle Anakin's.
No, but Dooku knows Ataru very, very, very well. To Soresu vs Djem So: Then I remembered false, lol.
It comes not from his greater Raw Power.
Still good strength feats from Dooku.
Nah, I don´t see it. Anakin isn´t physically stomping Galen, tho. Galen is likely also stronger than Dooku, but his feats against Vader don´t prove this, imo.
As we don´t have more parts on Sabers:
I don´t think that Anakin is more skilled that Dooku. In raw Skill. In overall combative Saber fight, tho? Here is Anakin superior. He had the upper hand against the Count in the whole fight. And Dooku is superior to TFU Vader by a fair marigin. Have you an Scan of the Galen vs Vader fight? I am interested in this, to see who had the upper hand in Sabers. And/or Arguments.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
The text directly states Anakin was enraged. I'm not even going to dignify this one with a response. Everybody reading this is literate and can therefore understand that the claim you just made is false, so I'll leave it at that.And you understand that the gap between AotC and RotS is only 3 years, correct? Obi Wan mentions that Anakin has grown in power as of LoE. It's assumed that this refers to the Outer Rim sieges but this is never confirmed in any source, it's just widely accepted throughout the forum.
Besides Anakin's Force capabilities fluctuate vastly based on his mindset. Just thinking about what Gunray did to Padme made him unable to force open a blast door. Being enraged by Dooku caused him to bring down an enormous dome. I take his standard power as of RotS as being able to push Dooku.
Eh, annoyed was a too weak word. He was pissed off. But by far not as angry, as he was in the Zone.
Also, he being able to control his Scream is a great showing of mastery.
He had an vastly Power Growth in that time. I am searching for quotes. I ´ll probably just ask in the Forum, lol.
I said peak Anakin. You agreed via PM, to Non-Zone Peak Anakin. Also, this Gunray to Padme feat interests me.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I've counted the number of droids in that gif. There are 20 of them. It doesn't compare.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Note Urs: These parts were mostly quotes.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Galen is a more powerful Force user then Anakin has ever encountered and going by their respective feats ( even Anakin's focused/enraged ones ) Galen exceeds him in power by a large margin.Comparing Vader and Anakin's standard force feats side by side Vader comes out on top. Vader is more knowledgeable and experienced. Looking at their skill sets in lightsaber combat Vader is far more versatile. The only think Anakin has over Vader is agility. Vader is inarguably superior to his Anakin incarnation.
Because Obi Wan ultimately didn't have the combative ability to press Anakin. That doesn't mean that intimate familiarity didn't help him in combating Anakin as Galen's knowledge would in the fight.[/I]
Imo Dooku=Galen in the Force, so, no.
TFU Vader hasn`t anything at Anakin, in Duelling, lol.
Yeah, It hasn´t helped the guy, who know Anakin’s fighting Style inside out, but the guy, who´ve seen Anakin’s holograms?!
@Syn Do you want votes, btw? Just for the debate, not what the Guys think, it would go.
